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[–] [email protected] 72 points 7 months ago (8 children)

It's a "mature" version of "crossing flags" that are a not uncommon sight in Japan near school zones:

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

What are they used for? You just take one and wave it?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

That's right, anyone crossing takes it, holds it in front of them, and crosses.

(The flag reads "crossing in progress")

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If they're anything like the ones in Korea, they hire someone to be there during busy times, and whenever someone wants to cross, the person steps out with the flag and stops traffic. Usually in school zones.

[–] SimplyATable 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Similar thing happens in the US where I am

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[–] SparrowRanjitScaur 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You just pick one up and carry it across the road and then drop it off in the little bin on the other side. The idea is that you're more visible when you're holding a flag.

[–] Phoonzang 5 points 7 months ago

I've seen those in the US not too long ago, too.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I hate going there because of all the fucking idiots in their dumb cars stinking up the place.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That whole place is a wasted opportunity for a pedestrian zone. It would be so nice if they'd kept the temporary tram line from the Olympics and banned personal vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

It baffles me how Vancouver does these really awesome things and then they're like "haha no, this amazing concept that made the city a bit better was just temporary".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

me talking about "outside"

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (4 children)

No doubt this is partly making fun of this idiotic idea.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago

I think you're right and Strong Towns just tested out that theory. Spoiler: it did not work. I really hope they try it again with the brick.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm going there in a couple weeks, would be cool of this was real.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bring your own brick (BYOB) just in case.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

(╭☞´ิ∀´ิ)╭☞

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

BYOB (Bring Your Own Bricks)

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

@mondoman712
I fashioned a large, hand held metal stop sign on a board. That’s why I carry when I cross busy streets in my neighborhood. I hold it out in front of myself like a flag. Drivers will slow if they think they might hit a big piece of metal. And drivers will bully soft fleshy humans with the threat of great bodily harm. It’s not very nice but it helps keep me alive.

[–] dejected_warp_core 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It’s not very nice but it helps keep me alive.

I think it's important to keep in mind that the dominant traffic control structure in the US is the stoplight, which relies heavily on "mutually assured destruction" to work. So that's in everyone's head when driving around: "I stop because I don't want to get hurt." To me, it's pretty clear that escalation to vehicular damage is the only thing that makes sense for pedestrians in such an environment. Yeah, it's not nice, but so is the rest of the game.

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[–] hOrni 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It seems, that the laws are to blame. In my country, when a pedestrian stands near a crossing tha car has to stop under penalty. Even if the pedestrian is just walking towards the crossing. Drivers usually comply.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That is the law on Ontario, all lanes of traffic must stop for someone using a pedestrian crossover (zebra crossing). The penalty for failure to comply is $1000 and 4 demerits. Fines are doubled ($2000) in community safety zones.

The law isn't to blame; driver compliance, enforcement, and road design is.

[–] FireRetardant 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The number of people that slowly inch their bumpers towards the old lady crossing the street so they can zoom past is truly disgusting. Could you imagine treating your own mother like that?

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick 11 points 7 months ago

Some stranger? No way.

My own mother? Absolutely.

Anyways, my thought is that crosswalks should default to walking, and if cars want to pass then can get out and press a beg button to get the light.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

We should pressure our governments to install these in every crossing where >1 pedestrian has been hit by a car

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

They would have to take budget from the military to afford this, what an outrageous act! Wait they can just defund hospitals and schools even more, but do you honestly think they would allocate even a dollar to safety for their citizens? Nah they would just shove the new money into the military again

This whole thing is satire, I didn't say /s since it looked like it's just focusing on the last sentence instead of the whole comment

[–] Etterra 14 points 7 months ago

They look like foam bricks. Same results, virtually no chance of harm in case of brick throwing. Win-win.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Hilarious! 😂

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

is it legal to carry flashing red and blue lights when crossing streets as a pedestrian? The number of times I've gotten stuck in the middle of the crosswalk bc no one will stop is absurd

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Maybe custom blinking shoes like what they used to make for kids back in the day? Just mimic the blinking pattern.

There are many people who still wouldn't notice until the siren comes on though. I can spot an interceptor if the sunlight just happens to hit it right, yet my mom will drive right past a parked white cop car with lights on and be surprised when I told her she didn't slow down to pass it. Then if an emergency siren goes off she panics and tries to pull to the shoulder without locating the emergency vehicle when fully blocked in by other cars and only moving enough to block the ambulance driving along the shoulder.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Seems great in practice, but wait until someone with the slightest hint of paranoia misattributes a threat against their car, to a threat against their safety.

One of three things happen:

  • Driver freaks out and freezes up.
  • Driver freaks out and speeds away (possibly causing an accident)
  • Driver freaks out and aims their car at you and puts their foot down.
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