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[–] BombOmOm 87 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Sounds like they didn't try very hard.

[–] AA5B 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can believe it, because of how integrated everything is at Apple. You probably need to bring a lot of iCloud support over (App Store, backups, apis), but that may also require supporting applications and configurations

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

im not fully convinced its api, as there are several times a dev or themselves have proved connecting to the apple service was possible. with message, beeper proved it was possible to chat with imessage users. with icloud, backups could be accessed via an internet browser (therefore theres an already existing api that is platform agnostic as it runs in a browser.)

apple could even just make a PWA and instantly have access to the same api that browsers use to access its cloud on its own, and supporting auto cloud sync wouldn't even have to be at an OS level.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Well, it's not like they said they gave it their best, and I really doubt they did.

They might have had a couple of trained monkeys bashing typewriters for 3 years in a room with the sign "Apple Watch for Android team" on the door for all we know. They just said they were "working on it" before scrapping the idea

[–] stoly 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It’s based on a specific piece of hardware in the iPhone called the Secure Enclave that basically keeps all of your PHI in a place that nobody but you can get it. It doesn’t transfer when you get a new phone, for instance, and has to be recreated. I’m betting that an Android app involved some sort of emulator, performance was awful, and they gave up.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Apple is full of shit. I freaking doubt it'll take them a year.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tim-cook-says-buy-mom-210347694.html#:~:text=Benzinga-,Tim%20Cook%20Says%20'Buy%20Your%20Mom%20An%20iPhone'%20If%20You,Not%20A%20Priority%20For%20Apple&text=Apple%20Inc.,showcased%20his%20sense%20of%20humor.

During a question-and-answer session, a journalist raised the issue of the iPhone’s incompatibility with rich communication services (RCS) messaging, preventing the seamless sharing of video clips with their Android-using mom. It’s been a longstanding issue between Apple and Android devices. Cook acknowledged that it isn’t a top priority for the company. If the reporter wanted to fix the issue, Cook joked, “buy your mom an iPhone.”

Pardon me if we don't give you the benefit of the doubt.

[–] GlitterInfection 2 points 3 months ago

https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/16/23964171/apple-iphone-rcs-support

There's definitely a difference between "not possible" and "not a priority."

[–] markstos 34 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Garmin smartwatches are good, support both Apple and Android and have their own App Store store for the watches that works with both mobile OS platforms.

It’s not clear what critical features couldn’t work for Apple on Android.

[–] taanegl 30 points 3 months ago

The missing critical feature was their a walled garden.

[–] Telodzrum 6 points 3 months ago

Garmin makes the best purpose-built smartwatches around. If you run, climb, hike, or golf a lot there isn't a better device for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I stand by the Instinct. All of the smart features I need, and a 2 week battery life. I just wish they would release a model that doesn't look like a G-Shock.

[–] markstos 1 points 3 months ago

Other Garmin watches have practically the same features as the Instinct, but look different. Garmin makes small changes to market the watches to different segments.

[–] dinckelman 29 points 3 months ago

My classmates back at uni also spent years trying to do something during group projects, and then suddenly had to go paint the ceiling, walk their pet hamster, move to a different apartment, and all that other stuff. We all know what these words mean.

They didn’t do shit, and everyone knows that as a fact. If there really was motivation for them to do it, it would have been done with the Watch Gen2

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We couldn't because... reasons?

[–] then_three_more 1 points 3 months ago

We couldn't because we just put a series of interns on it.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Calling bullshit. Whether you like their products or not, you gotta admit that some of the best software engineers in the world work at Apple. If they really wanted to do it, it would get done.

Plus, “investigating” an idea for three years is most definitely not the same as actively trying.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah, if tiny smart watch startups can make it, Apple can.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

That's the thing, you don't need to get all those top engineers in a room to investigate something, a team of product managers can do that perfectly fine and tell you it's not possible.

[–] mriguy 2 points 3 months ago

“We spent 3 years exploring whether spending the engineering effort to make it work the way we wanted on Android would end up making us more money in the long run, and decided it wouldn’t. Because we are a business, and that’s literally how we make every decision.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

They made iTunes for Windows when they wanted to sell more iPods. But that was under different leadership.

[–] mrfriki 1 points 3 months ago

It might be true, anything they have released outside their walled garden is pure crap, iTunes for Windows, Music for Android…

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago

It just doesn't work

[–] mlg -2 points 3 months ago

One one hand, ye ye old java dalvik

On the other hand, proprietary Apple