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The names of previous Lemmy versions were all very boring and repetetive. We need something much more creative. Any ideas?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eh, if someone on the team is feeling creative I don't mind fun version numbers but semantic versioning is quite searchable and reduces confusion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

One does not exclude the other. You can have a fancy name and a semantic versioning.

[–] Tanoh 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The problem is that it is almost always just one lf them. Let's say that v0.20 is called "Fuck Spez" and v0.21 is called "YouKnowWhatFuckMuskToo".

Most people are going to refer to them by either the number or the name, almost never are both used. The biggest problem with names is that they are rarely sortable (google did it with android, for a bit but not anymore), so in the future it is hard to know which is which without resorting to looking at a list of releases.

For example, in the future when we are on v0.30 someone might say "ah, but this has been an issue since "Fuck Spez"." And then most likely you have to look it up to know what they are talking about. If we coulld force everyone to alwaya write "version "Fuck Spez" (v0.20)" then it would be great, but that never happens.

I personally prefer just semantic versioning for this reason.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

What if the names were picked from whatever news was prominent during the release week. During last summer we could have had something like blackout or APIcalypse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

People can search the name or SemVer and get the other name. It's not hard, not time-consuming, and it's way more fun. I genuinely miss when Android had dessert-themed names because it made the updates that much more exciting

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think that's the case and why I said it's fine in my OC, but the more I think about it I'm slightly concerned it might cause some fragmentation "Does anyone know how to force a user sync in Lightfoot?" and "How can I sync users (forced) in v13.8.12?"

[–] kautau 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it muddles with searching for answers, especially when the names are common things. Apple can get away with naming macOS on places in California, but it’s going to be tough searching β€œhaving trouble posting comments on Thor” or whatever. The naming scheme can work, but it has to be very unique

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I have exactly this problem when trying to fix issues on my MacBook :(

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Hm... Good point.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Based on classification? Taken from a Wikipedia article concerning lemmings.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

It's software versioning, not a new breakfast cereal

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

MotΓΆrhead had 23 studio albums.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

This, it means sooner or later there will be a Lemmy version called Orgasmatron.

[–] slazer2au 13 points 10 months ago

No we don't.

Versioning like this is good for knowing how far off you are from current.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Numbers. All the stupid ubuntu names are cheese.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

We've been notoriously bad about doing more frequent releases, but if we were to release every month, then naming them could get annoying really quickly.

I'd prefer to just stay with the semantic version numbering, like a lot of projects with a ton of releases do. Like look at react's releases.

The fun named versioning makes sense for operating systems, that release only like once a year, but not for apps, docker services, libraries, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So are you saying we are gonna get monthly updates πŸ‘€πŸ‘€

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'd like that, we just have to be more disciplined about not adding breaking changes too often.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Take your time

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We only do major versions around once a year so those could still be named, while using numbers for minor versions. Lemmy is more user-facing than react, so it would make sense to have a more user-friendly versioning.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I'd be good with that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I agree that there shouldn't be official names for versions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It sounds a bit too soon to use release names, especially given that Lemmy is still in alpha.

When a major release comes out, I suggest using colony names (fictional or real), like the pirate republic.

In general, I like names that highlight the decentralised aspect of the fediverse.

[–] kuneho 1 points 10 months ago

I usually go with strange long animal names... like "Desert Cottontail"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Books of the Bible, Torah and Koran

The amount of controversy it would generate would propel Lemmy into international headlines.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

or chapters from "Das Capital"

[–] LazaroFilm 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Call the next one Final and the one after that Final.Final

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)
  • goddamn.final
  • truly.final
  • final.i.swear
  • final.ffs
  • no.more.revision
  • no.more.revision.please
  • no.more.goddamn.revision
  • no.more.fcken.revisiom
  • no.more.revision.ffs
[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

use.this.one.actually

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I feel attacked.

[–] HootinNHollerin 4 points 10 months ago

Final.Final-edited_20240322-backup Copy-FINAL

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Having a name for a version would be nice for each major release (1.0.0 would have a name but 1.x.x wouldn’t, but 2.0.0 would, etc)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I like the TeX version scheme, it starts with version 3. After that it's:
3.1
3.14
3.141
3.1415 etc. Current stable release is 3.141592653. The message is that each version is a more accurate approximation of pi. It's not growing much bigger, but better.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is fun but also incredibly awful

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Just like TeX :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

The descriptions up until 0.18.5 seem very informative.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Name it after famous Lemmy's.

V1.0 - Killmister
V2.0 - Koopa

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Music artists? Bands? Mountain names? Types of peppers? Either one would spice things up a bit I think lol

[–] NorthWestWind 2 points 10 months ago

Larry
Roy
Wendy
Iggy
Morton
Ludwig

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Call me a shit stirer but I can’t help but wonder if this violates rule 3? Which I say not to have this removed from here but because of the IMO weirdness of not wanting any lemmy-support posts here as though lemmy isn’t a growing space in need of supporting new users.

[–] Brkdncr 1 points 10 months ago

Instead of β€œrelease v20” how about β€œfull release v20”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Just use track titles of MotΓΆrhead. Major release could have album titles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Species of apples

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Famous characters that are public domain. You could use recent ones (Steamboat Willie/Mickey Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, etc.) or pick from a long list of classic ones:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/elderfingolfin/lists/best-public-domain-characters/18883/