Save me from TikTok because of what? I mean, we know the hidden reasoning, but what is the official concern?
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They just don't want you to talk about it
So there's an app that's operated out of an authoritarian country that's spewing propaganda from a terrorist organization that's making you hate your own democratic government.
You can't understand why people might have some concerns over this if Tik Tok is your only source of information. And that only adds to the concerns over Tik Tok.
How angry are is the Tik Tok crowd over how China treats the Uighurs? It's all ok as long as you don't witness it on Tik Tok, right?
operated out of an authoritarian country
Parent company is operated out of China, actually company is operated out of Singapore, US, Europe.
Spewing propaganda from a terrorist organization
You referring to Hamas? They barely have Internet access, and they certainly don't get any special treatment on the app. The people criticizing Israel are not terrorists or terrorist sympathizers, and mislabeling them as such doesn't do you any favors. And TikTok has been allegedly suppressing any videos talking about that subject.
Making you hate your own government
Wrong. The only people making me hate my government is my government. I actually realized that Republicans pushed me left, but it was mostly the left that pushed me so far left that I want my guns back.
The TikTok crowd
You don't understand how many people are on the app and their demographics do you?
Parent company is operated out of China, actually company is operated out of Singapore, US, Europe.
Where do they make decisions about the algorithm that decides what you're seeing on TikTok? That's what's relevant here.
Also Huawei played similar games, but we later found out how connected it was basically just a branch of the Chinese government. If you believe the shell company shenanigans, it's probably because you've spent a lot of time on TikTok.
You referring to Hamas? They barely have Internet access, and they certainly don’t get any special treatment on the app.
I'm pretty sure the billionaire leaders of Hamas living in palaces in Qatar have internet access. Did Tik Tok not tell you that there are literal billionaires that are leaders of Hamas? Loses some of the appeal when you realize it isn't some rag tag group of freedom fighters but actually a fascist movement that wants to restore the ethnic makeup of a region to how it was in old maps. Something to think about when you see people cosplaying as Hamas at the protests.
And TikTok has been allegedly suppressing any videos talking about that subject.
Did you hear this on TikTok?
Wrong. The only people making me hate my government is my government. I actually realized that Republicans pushed me left, but it was mostly the left that pushed me so far left that I want my guns back.
You don't even have a cohesive concept of any kind of politics, other than hating your own government. Where did that come from? You obviously don't put a lot of thought into political issues if you swing from one party to the next and you admit the only consistency you have is a hatred of your own government. You've just proven my point about TikTok influencing you into hating your government.
You don’t understand how many people are on the app and their demographics do you?
Somewhere between 150 to 170 million Americans get their news from TikTok. Do you think that if there's more people getting news from a source where the relevant news stories could be decided by an authoritarian country somehow makes it less of a concern?
We know a lot of people use TikTok, and we know that ultimately authoritarians decide what is shown to people on that site. We know that people on TikTok are being fed disinformation, we know that people are being pushed towards being sympathetic towards terrorist movements. It has all of the signs of a campaign to destabilize western countries. But maybe TikTok has influenced you towards wanting to destroy your own country.
You fundamentally misunderstood several of my points and I'm assuming it was intentional.
You don't know who makes decisions on algorithms, so you're speculating without evidence.
I'm not surprised Hamas leaders are rich, they've been funded by Israel. Also, good job proving my point that you see any criticism of Israel as Hamas sympathy. That's like assuming every Democrat that criticizes Biden is a secret Republican. That's delusional and undermines your argument.
TikTok censorship has been reported outside of TikTok. Just like other social media. Why even argue on that point? That's something you should latch onto that we actually agree on.
I don't swing from one party to the next. I have moved further and further left BECAUSE of my government. You intentionally missed my point again. I have an excellent understanding of politics and that's WHY I hate the government. TikTok is separate from that entirely. I hate the Chinese government, and the Russian government, and most governments tbh. And we could spend hours discussing my politics, but that's just distracting from my very obvious point.
But maybe TikTok has influenced you towards wanting to destroy your own country.
Never seen a straw man so fragile. You don't know many of the things you claim to know, especially my motivations. But I can guess at your pro Israel intentions
From a third party perspective I think you sound pretty much like how that user has painted you.
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Uh, this is embarrassing but it's actually operated out of Singapore. The company that actually runs TikTok is owned by a Company with it's headquarters in China.
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frfr, i can't believe how many smug takes i saw about this the day it passed. left and right giddy to oppress the youth just because the dances are stupid
It's not even just an app full of kids or even dancing. If it ever was that was well before my time. I'm sure it still exists but it never makes it to me. It's full of young adults and millennials these days. Other than the outrage over the genocide by Isreal another current big drama going around is about NC rep Jeff Jackson because he got a huge following on TikTok and then voted to ban it. There's also a big thing about boycotting kellogs and we've been pretty active in discussing businesses that are stifling unions. Hell, half the front page of reddit is just badly cropped TikTok videos these days anyway lol
Well, ok. I lied. Sometimes I do get dancing videos: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLFVoyUw/
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Is the distribution significantly different on other social media platforms? Because if not, what you're insinuating might not actually be real.
The very concept of a state is the problem.
State - a group of people who claim they are allowed to use violence to get their way and that nobody else is allowed to protect themselves from this violence.
(Others may define "state" to be essentially synonymous with "government". The above definition contains the only quality in common with every entity I am speaking of.)
There is no reality in which any state is not taken over by those willing to cause the harm necessary to do so.
This does not mean the best course of action is attempted immediate destruction of any state, that will cause the boot to stomp harder on us. The best course of action is minimize dependence on the economic system that state depends on. That is to say, growing some portion of your food is just about as radical as it gets.