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Lingua Franca (files.catbox.moe)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/chevron7
 
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[–] dohpaz42 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I vaguely remember long ago seeing an interview that explained that new worlds would default speak English because otherwise they’d have to spend the majority of the episode with Daniel having to learn each new language.

https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/2743/why-does-everyone-on-almost-every-planet-in-the-pegasus-galaxy-speak-english#2744

[–] Landless2029 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I always assume it was a plot hole/device to keep the story moving.

No way in hell everyone speaks English or anything close to it. Each SG team would need a linguist just to make contact.

For things like star trek they have translators to explain it away but for Stargate I just accept it. Otherwise the show wouldn't work.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Doesn't every SG team have a linguist? I thought that was specifically Daniel's job in SG1

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Different teams had different purposes. I am sure most teams had no use for a linguist, even if it had been a more realistic English-less universe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Doesnt SG3 mostly just shoot people and blow stuff up?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If that was the reason, they still could have had the majority of the Galaxy speak a common language that was not English. In fact, that wouldn't even need to be a concession to practically. For the most part, they were operating within a well established transportation network and empire. Even uf planets had their own local languages; it makes sense that there would be a Lingua Franca that a significant portion of people living near the gates understand.

That still means that probably half of the runtime of the show would be done in a con-lang variant of ancient Egyptian; which probably wouldn't fly in an English speaking market not used to subtitles.

[–] danl 5 points 8 months ago

Surely 80-90% of Daniel’s job is teaching languages to the other teams. Especially after Children of the Gods when they discover that the whole network is run by the Goa’uld/Jaffa.

[–] cynar 4 points 8 months ago

Rather than subtitles, after establishing there was a common language, they could just have shifted to English, like they did. They could then lampshade it later. Have someone new walk in, only to find them all talking in galactic. O'Neil apologising, then shifting back to English, when talking to a new politician or diplomat, could have been some amusing character building.

The plot hole is filled (they are all talking galactic standard) while the viewer are happy (since it actually in English).

[–] raynethackery 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I like to think it is a function of the Stargate. Like the Tardis does for the Doctor and his / her companions.

[–] EndlessApollo 6 points 8 months ago

Yeah, my headcanon is that traveling through a gate maybe uploads some knowledge of the local language, and it just takes a couple trips to take effect so they had to do translation in the movie

[–] maniii 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is that the same chick from Fargate? She always funny.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Yes, and the guy from Farscape was on the show too.

[–] CodexArcanum 20 points 8 months ago

Claudia Black, and Ben Browder! They had such amazing chemistry on Farscape so it was a real treat to get them both again on Stargate!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And a ton of people from Star Trek!

EDIT: Wow, far more than I thought

https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek#Behind_the_scenes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think you misspelled *Starscape, there.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I want 5 seasons of this, thanks in advance

[–] Tattorack 20 points 8 months ago

I liked the earlier seasons because of this. There was always a language barrier and Daniel had to constantly work out how to communicate with who they were visiting.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know the movie spoke a different language, don't recall if they said it was ancient whatever.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It was an older version is Egyptian in the movie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That is what I thought, too, I clearly remember there being a language barrier in the film.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Who could forget the great "cluck clucking" scene.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

I always figured the goa'uld forced everyone in their empire to speak the same language

[–] toynbee 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When I look at the thumbnail for this, the characters are facing one way. When I load the image, the characters are all facing the opposite way, but the text doesn't get reversed.

This is presumably related to my client, Connect ... But that doesn't make it any less confusing. At least to me.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Obviously just some quantum mirror shenanigans.

Actual explanation: The thumbnail you are seeing was the original version I posted. Then I figured it might make a little more sense if the panels on each side had the characters facing each other, so I flipped each panel and reuploaded that version. Your client probably cached the thumbnail from before I edited my post.

[–] toynbee 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is a much more satisfactory explanation than was expected. Thank you.

[–] Jackcooper 1 points 8 months ago

You ever make a stranger think they're going insane?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

She should warn them to not eat the Dentics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then how do they understand them?