The IRS came after me over the taxes for a couple of grand on a repossessed car that I never got the paperwork on. Apparently I should have just made a few million and not filed at all rather than losing everything I had.
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The issue is these people can afford accountants and other people to draw out and hinder the process. Poor people just have to pay or be held accountable. That's why low IRS funding hurts poor people and high funding hurts rich people. If they've got the money, they can go after the wealthy and, in turn, get even more money from them than they spent to get it.
they’re just waiting for their puppet to come back and dismantle the IRS.
Sooo... Not only has it not trickled down but, they haven't even paid their fair share, huh? Who woulda' thought?!
Oh come on buddy... It hasn't trickled down because they haven't paid their fair share yet! Doubtless the cheque is in the mail and it just got lost for a few years or something; it'll all start trickling down in no time don't you worry!!
Obvious the rich didn't pay tax at all, evade the most time possible to paid it or use tricks to pay the most less posible, it's a classic, the middle and low class are the ones which pay the majority of tax and in time, it's the way capitalism work.
The funny thing it's how some people are proud of paying tax while the rich didn't pay a fuck LMAO.
The Republicans have long had a strategy of requiring the IRS to heavily audit use of the earned income tax credit for the poor, while starving it for resources, so that it couldn't audit the richest.
The Inflation Reduction Act the Democrats passed a couple years back gave the IRS money to actually go after the wealthy, which is what we're seeing here.
The Inflation Reduction Act the Democrats passed a couple years back gave the IRS money to actually go after the wealthy, which is what we’re seeing here.
And of course the goddamn scum of the earth propagandists screamed "the Democrats are funding the IRS to COME AFTER YOU!!" And we now have a talking point about how the IRS needs to be defunded to "protect the little guy." It's so disgusting... I hate these people so much.
Every story we've seen on the news in the last 50 years about an "overzealous IRS harrassing the little guy" has been complete bullshit propped up by conservatives and their capitalist buddies.
I believe this it's more about the 1% VS the 99% instead of the left vs the right.
The Republicans openly favor the 1%, which is a big difference between the parties
Yeah but both are owned by the 1%
The Democrats very much less so; a big chunk of their coalition is the labor unions who are outside that demographic.
That's called GOOD BUSINESS! The TRUE Leeches are the SINGLE MOTHERS using FOOD STAMPS to feed their KIDS!
Haven't filed tax return? So they don't want refunds? I'm confused.
If you're getting a refund, it's means you've been over paying and giving Uncle Sam an interest free loan.
I haven't gotten a (federal) refund in years. Every year I pay at tax time, so that money is sitting in my savings account for the year gaining interest rather sitting in the governments account gaining interest. We aren't talking a ton of money, but it's the type of game I can't help but play if it's available.
For the record, if your taxes are higher than a certain number you have to pay it every quarter, otherwise you will owe interest on it at the end of the year. So what EatATaco said is mostly true.
Sure, I should have made that clear that if you arent close, you'll pay a penalty.
Actual CPA here, you'll owe an underpayment of estimated tax penalty if you don't pay in at least the lesser of 90% of current year/100% of prior year (110% if AGI >$150K) tax. The penalty is based on the Federal short term rate and prorated based on amount underpaid and time outstanding (i.e. Q1 is overdue for the whole year but only 1/4 of the underpayment, Q4 is the whole amount but only late by one quarter). When all is said and done, it usually works out to like 2% and we have plenty of clients that would rather hold the cash and pay the penalty because it's generally cheaper than borrowing, or they figure they can get a greater rate of return by interesting it (depending on their situation/perspective).
If you miss April 15th it goes to credit card rates though (failure to pay penalty, which is very different from underpayment of estimated tax). Don't do that. Remember: an extension is for time to file, not time to pay.
The super-rich don't get much of their income from wages, where there is withholding of a bit more than you're likely to owe if the wages are your only income. They get it from interest, dividends, and running a business. There is usually not withholding for those, so they're supposed to make quarterly payments. But the Republicans cut IRS funding years ago, so it didn't have the resources to go after them if they just stopped paying. So a lot did just that.
People living anywhere less than 10 million aren't generally living off of dividends though either. Switching to that too soon is a common mistake many of the "merely rich" make.
Sure, but they're talking about people with income of more than 1 million. If they're living off interest and dividends, they've probably got something in the realm of $30-75 million in assets.
Point.