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Gen Z falls for online scams more than their boomer grandparents do. The generation that grew up with the internet isn’t invulnerable to becoming the victim of online hackers and scammers.::undefined

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Millennials are probably the best at avoiding scams.

Unfortunately we also have no money to scam anyway.

[–] Altofaltception 62 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's because of all that avocado toast.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I stopped eating avocado toast and now I own a mansion and 5 supercars.

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[–] givesomefucks 112 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The cost of falling for those scams may also be surging for younger people: Social Catfish’s 2023 report on online scams found that online scam victims under 20 years old lost an estimated $8.2 million in 2017. In 2022, they lost $210 million.

Teenagers are bad at risk assessment...

This shouldn't shock anyone, but it makes boomers feel good about themselves and their lead addled brains can't handle the critical thinking to understand why this isn't the win they think it's is...

[–] pavnilschanda 37 points 10 months ago

True. As a kid I'd fall for scams all the time, constantly downloading malware that would crash the family computer.

[–] lledrtx 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No way it went up 20x in 5yrs? There must be something weird with the data

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You mean kids don't have enough life experience to spot scams at first glance? No way!

[–] eager_eagle 24 points 10 months ago

I'm surprised. Just like that time I was the 1,000,000th visitor of this well reputable website back in the day.

[–] feedum_sneedson 66 points 10 months ago (7 children)

They can't use computers! Sorry to generalise, but I was called a genius for using the task manager and just basic Word formatting. The thing is, we do have our 10,000 hours, maybe I am the equivalent of a chess grandmaster in Word. It's just jarring to hear from a university student.

[–] jerrythegenius 20 points 10 months ago (3 children)

As a gen z, I agree-- I once used a terminal in front of one of my friends and he (unironically) asked if I was programming it myself.

[–] feedum_sneedson 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

From what I can see, it's because "screens" got so much easier to use there's been no need for countless nights of screaming at the laptop until you figure something out. I mean, it was not easy becoming fluent.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

I am scared to see what will happen when iPad kids grow up and something doesn't work, their understanding of an app is an icon with a label that you click so it opens. No troubleshooting skills whatsoever, even googling a problem isn't an option for them.

[–] jerrythegenius 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean, there was that one time that I tried alpine linux w/sway and then spent ~30 minutes connecting to my friends wifi (this was when he asked if I was programming it myself).

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Same here, I have the nickname "hacker" at school just because I use an android and am tech savy. I have seen people that didn't know what a folder was, thx apple, and thought I was hacking the school or smth when I updated some stuff in termux.

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[–] random_character_a 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think that generalization is acceptable.

Most avoid computers. My parents use'em and click everything they come across with. Decade ago I installed Linux in their shitty old computer, just so I can remove everything they can use to screw up the OS.

Everything was fine for few years till my father bought a new shitty low end computer from the black friday with all kinds of support and additional warranty BS that needed Windows with VNC that they really didn't understand.

So, the result of that study is BS. One reason is that people selling old people expensive shit they don't need is not considered a scam.

[–] feedum_sneedson 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Boomer mother using Samsung flagship device to use WhatsApp and literally nothing else? That contract is absolutely a scam.

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[–] stoly 12 points 10 months ago

Late Gen X to early Millennial was the sweet spot between needing to know how a computer works and having a computer that just works. People before and after don’t have that experience.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I had a work colleague who had a spreadsheet with one column calculating something to do with a particular date. They didn't have any formulas at all. For any calculations. They would go in each day and manually calculate and then type in the values. In every cell.

I put in an input cell date, and simplest of formulas in 3 cells, and they looked at me like I was some kind of wizard.

I returned to my desk, put my head in my hands in sheer shock. I still don't understand what they thought a spreadsheet was for....It made.nice columns?

Anyways, when I recovered, I finished my resignation letter,.and that was the best thing I ever did in that particular cesspool 😁

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They never played Runescape and it shows

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Boomers fall for online scams because they aren't aware of how powerful the internet can make bad actors.

Zoomers fall for online scams because they're younger and simply inexperienced dealing with scam artists.

Millennials fall for online scams because we're lonely and really want the friendly Indian guy we're talking to to get their itunes gift card.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Gen X would love to fall for online scams however everyone keeps forgetting them.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 10 months ago

Gen Z are 11 to 26, younger when this study was done. Take out the youngest cohort of Gen Z and the oldest cohort of Boomers, then show me the new statistics. This is how you mislead with data.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Exposure to technology does not automatically breed expertise. I have a 15 year old. Smart phones have existed for her entire life. She knows how to use Snapchat and take goofy selfies. That's where her expertise ends. Any time anything is wrong, she sounds like her grandma complaining "mY mOdEm DoEsNt WoRk!" It's not a modem grandma! That's your computer! Most of her friends are the same way.

[–] lepinkainen 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And "WiFi" is synonymous for "Interenet connection" to them.

Yea, kiddo, the WiFi is working just fine, but the ISP crapped its pants and you can't connect to anything past this house.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

My partner is a millennial who grew up with computers, but never got too technical with them. She was confused when I told her that our WiFi was down at the router, but we still had an internet connection.

"If we have internet, why can't I connect?"

Because the WiFi isn't working.

"But you said we still have an internet connection."

Well, I do, and so would you if you'd let me run an ethernet cable to your office, too!"

"...but if there's no WiFi, why does the cable work?"

Lol

[–] NarrativeBear 9 points 10 months ago

Not to mention most ISP marketing is pretty loose in its terminology. Most if not all radio or tv ads these days seem to interchange internet and wifi as if they are one and the same on a daily basis.

ie. All ads stating something along the lines of "subscribe to whole home wifi for a low monthly fee."

I have too many conversations on both sides of the age gap trying to explain the difference between supplying your own router with its own wifi capabilities as opposed to a ISP modem/router combo.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

When you grow up around something being easy to use, you lose the intricate understanding that used to be necessary.

For Gen X and Millennials, it's probably cars and/or electronics.

Busted light switch cover? Better call an electrician "just in case".

Need to replace an air filter? Better take it to the shop.

Not sure where the line is, but I had a Gen X woman tell me that she needs to take the car to the dealership to get her air pressure adjusted. When I showed her how to take off the cap on the tire's air pressure valve, she looked at me as if I had just pried off her steering wheel, lol

Not sure where the line is drawn, and there are definitely some people in those generations who know those things. But I'd bet Boomers and earlier generations had a better understanding on average.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

To be fair, cars are becoming less and less serviceable.

I had a light bulb that died on my car, and tried to change it myself. How hard could that be?

Turns out the light bulb is so buried under the engine I ended up giving up and bringing it to the shop. And often even independent shops can no longer service cars, you have to bring it to your maker's dealership because only they have the proprietary tooling to fix it.

[–] RockstarSunglasses 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a car enthusiast and backyard mechanic, this is precisely why I prefer to own older vehicles. If something goes wrong with my '06, I can handle that. My friends/family members with newer cars, by and large, can't even handle their own basic maintenance because of the way things are designed now. It's worse than planned obsolescence, it's engineered difficulty.

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[–] yesman 10 points 10 months ago

I tried to replace my sister's serpentine belt a couple summers ago. Simple, basic maintenance, right? Turns out, the only way to turn the tensioner, was from underneath the car. I'm still mad about it.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago

They are also falling for right wing trolls wrapped thinly in progressive language

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (5 children)

wish i could say i’m surprised. i’m gen z myself and i’d say i’m pretty decent with not being an idiot with technology. i do the usual stuff like running firefox + uBlockOrigin and i’m also a linux user. anyways, people at my school are just… so dumb with technology. a bunch of people have lost permission to use their school chromebooks and a computer at school because they got malware on it. either by going to a pirate site or just clicking a random download button (my school doesn’t allow us to use adblockers). not to mention that most of them believe that macs cannot get malware. so yeah, i’m unfortunately not surprised with this

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I thank getting into pcgaming for pushing me towards tech literacy. With how simplified tech has gotten and most usage being phones it's not surprising so many are more clueless than boomers who were at least forced to use PCs in an office setting.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

(my school doesn’t allow us to use adblockers)

wtf why

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

King of obvious really by the sheer volume of manosphere, crypto, etc grift content out there.

[–] rwhitisissle 18 points 10 months ago (16 children)

If there's one thing I've noticed about Gen Z purely from interacting with them online it's that they're incredibly, remarkably gullible. Like, broadly resistant to the concept of facetiousness, sarcasm, or that they might be being taken for a ride. They take everything at face value. I once made the joke on reddit that the greatest Disney villain of all time was Cobra Bubbles from Lilo and Stitch because his backstory was that he used to work for the CIA before becoming a social worker, which meant there was a non-zero percent chance he helped train Osama Bin Laden in insurgency tactics in the 1980s and was therefore indirectly responsible for 9/11. The zoomers were both confused and outraged because they believed me entirely at face value. I would imagine them applying a similar degree of online literacy to your average dark pattern scam that said "click here for free V Bucks." There are no V Bucks, dog. There's never any V Bucks.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

genX are the perps. shhhh dont tell anyone. no one knows were here

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[–] ikidd 12 points 10 months ago

I think they're way more used to just giving information away without thinking about it. "They have everything already, why fight it" just plays into the hands of scammers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Well yeah, there's a lot more of them on the internet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

And people have unirinically said that zoomers don't need to learn computers and tech because advancements in UI have made that obsolete.

[–] TrueStoryBob 10 points 10 months ago

So... based on this headline... studies from the NFT craze a year and a half ago are finally coming out.

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