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Brood XIX and Brood XIII will both emerge this spring. The last time these bugs showed up at the same time in the United States, Thomas Jefferson was president.

The cicadas are coming — and if you’re in the Midwest or the Southeast, they will be more plentiful than ever. Or at least since the Louisiana Purchase.

This spring, for the first time since 1803, two cicada groups known as Brood XIX, or the Great Southern Brood, and Brood XIII, or the Northern Illinois Brood, are set to appear at the same time, in what is known as a dual emergence.

The last time the Northern Illinois Brood’s 17-year cycle aligned with the Great Southern Brood’s 13-year period, Thomas Jefferson was president. After this spring, it’ll be another 221 years before the broods, which are geographically adjacent, appear together again.

“Nobody alive today will see it happen again,” said Floyd W. Shockley, an entomologist and collections manager at the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History. “That’s really rather humbling.”

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[–] CaptainSpaceman 47 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So cool that bugs and trees like prime numbers

[–] batmaniam 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It is cool as hell, and for anyone who's going "huh?", I'm going to get this half wrong, but it has to do with making sure they don't fall into "rythem" with their predators cycles. The odds of synchronizing to a prime are lower (because years are integers and a prime can only be in sync with itself or larger, not smaller).

Trees will have mast years on primes where they'll produce just a crazy amount of acorns. Because they haven't in so long, the squirrel population etc didn't explode. So they'll feast that year but can't get to them all, and while the population of squirrels might grow that year, next year is a low acorn year again.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is this why the pon farr is every 7 years

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[–] CaptainSpaceman 4 points 10 months ago

Last year winter my acorn problem was insane! Not so bad this winter

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And ribs, don’t forget about prime ribs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] TomatoSlayer 11 points 10 months ago

Inspected numbers and choice numbers just aren't as good.

[–] gothic_lemons 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

1803? So the cicadas are a key part of the plan for expanding the power of the judiciary?!?!!!

[–] FlyingSquid 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I remember a huge cicada emergence when I was a kid in the 1980s. You couldn't get a car out of the driveway without driving over dozens of them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same, I'm wondering how this will compare.

[–] FlyingSquid 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I still remember the crunching.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People seriously do eat them. I'm not against eating bugs. I've eaten bugs before. I'd try them.

https://www.expressnews.com/food/article/Yes-you-can-eat-cicadas-how-to-cook-16385246.php

[–] xhieron 5 points 10 months ago

I love bugs. But only ocean bugs. With butter.

[–] Creddit 22 points 10 months ago

I wonder if you could capture a high quality, multitrack recording of this emergence event to get a multidimensional audio sample from unique times/geographies where these groups emerge.

With an audio sample that could only come from this specific event every 200+ years, you could set up a program that survives your own death and triggers only when it happens again.

I'm not sure what the utility would be, but I'd watch it on Netflix for sure.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh God the noise will be deafening. 😬

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago
[–] Hotdogman 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. NOBODY CAN HEAR ME OVER THE CICADAS! 😱

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 33 points 10 months ago

No, they're harmless and they don't even do much damage to plants because they mostly eat plant fluid in twigs, which trees and bushes usually survive just fine, even with a huge number of cicadas on them.

They're just a big mess.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No, they don't cause damage on their own. Birds get a windfall of big nutritious bugs. Humans might be a little creeped out.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

Plus everywhere you go sounds like one of those old sci fi movies

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I ate one once. 5/10, would be better deep fried.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Dehydrated and seasoned.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 10 months ago

People do fry them. I posted a link elsewhere in the thread.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I genuinely love the cacophony of cicadas and I live in the Midwest so I’m thrilled for this!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Now people will know what having tinnitus is like!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Keanu Reeves remembers it like it was yesterday

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Nic Cage too

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[–] iAvicenna 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

spawn more overlords blerching regurgitation gurgling neighing sounds

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

We require more Vespene gas

[–] set_secret 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

'the world' then lists only places in USA.

You do it to yourselves..

[–] cheese_greater 4 points 10 months ago

What is the US if not a place in the world + that is watched?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Emm, with the climate change and pollution, should we panic if they don't show up?

[–] jeffw 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The last major brood batch showed up a couple years ago. I think it’ll be fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

It showed up but it was way smaller than it was 17 years prior.

[–] numberfour002 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For some reason, I was thinking it was a few years more recent than 2011 the last time the Southern Brood emerged in my area. I have a memory of going for a hike in a wooded park, and there were so many of these cicadas that their individual calls just blended together into an almost ethereal low hum. Just didn't realize it was that long ago.

Since childhood, I've always thought cicadas were really cool critters. Their calls are the quintessential soundtrack of summer days for me.

I don't formally track things, but I do pay attention to when I first start noticing cicada calls each year. I had noticed that they have seemed to emerge later and later the past 4 or 5 years. In 2023, the first time I noticed any calls at all was near the end of June. Normally I start hearing them around the last week of May to the first week of June.

I also did not see as many cicada molts last year as normal, so I was thinking that it was a smaller emergence than typical. I wonder if it's related to the upcoming 13-year brood getting ready to emerge?

Final note: I went most of my life without knowing that cicadas can "bite". I mean, technically they can't bite because their mouth parts are needle-like, but I found out that they will sometimes jab a human.

One year I had a Disney princess moment where a cicada landed on my finger while I was outside working in the yard. I just left it to do its thing, because again I think they're cool and never had issues handling them before. Several minutes went by, and then I felt a poke in the general area of the cicada -- and then realized it must have mistaken me for a tree and it was trying to feed. I could see it lifting up a bit and making repeated attempts to stab its mouth into my finger. I guess I was the most poplar Disney princess that cicada had encountered that day. Fortunately it wasn't painful, but one of the jabs did break the skin and there was a small amount of blood.

[–] EmpathicVagrant 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And when the plagues come, the cicadas shall have a taste for human blood. We shall all have numberfour002 to thank for their hunger.

[–] numberfour002 3 points 10 months ago

I prefer to believe that I'm uniquely nutritious and irresistibly sweet. And I probably acquired some kind of special powers from my cicada bite that enable me to make anything I touch suck.

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