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[–] dustyData 231 points 11 months ago (9 children)

No matter how expensive a home sim you make, it won't ever get be even a quarter of what an actual entry amateur plane costs to buy and maintain. It's not even the plane itself either, it's all the recurring costs like storage, maintenance, spare parts, fuel, certification fees, taxes, etc. The only cheap flight option for a recreational pilot is bushcraft light planes. And they will still cost more than the sim setup, while you'll only be able to fly it on certain places, during certain weather, at certain times of the year. The rest of the time you'll still have to pay all the storage and maintenance fees. Planes are incredibly expensive.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, you’ll be able to actually use it when life allows you, vs restructuring your whole life around being able to fly.

Now we just need one for where millionaires think their work is saving the world. Apparently the city building sims aren’t sufficient.

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[–] Cornpop 18 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Yes and no. I bought a property with a double wide and a 5000 square foot hangar on it located on a private strip. The rent from the double wide and the other hangar spots I rent pays the mortgage and all the expenses related to the property. I own a j3 cub that I have about 30k into that I fly daily in Florida and maintain it myself for practically nothing. Affordable aviation is possible but you have to be very smart about how you go about doing it, and a good bit of luck is involved to get the right deals by being in the right place at the right time.

[–] DasAlbatross 47 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Oh sure, just go buy a big enough property to have a hanger and a private landing strip on it. Cheap and easy!

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[–] dustyData 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yes, but I bet that if you break down the accounting it would still be several times the cost of the setup on the photo. Home sims typically don't carry an additional mortgage payment or a lifestyle commitment.

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[–] Zaros 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Plus I'm afraid of heights.

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[–] db2 114 points 11 months ago (9 children)

All that hardware and then just.. a chair.

[–] AverageGoob 49 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention the Ikea table.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

They're probably saving up to build a motion simulation rig.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

And only one monitor too. Would have expected 3-4 to give a better view.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Yeah you ain't gonna be buying a plane if you're using the cheapest office chair you found at a thrift store.

Unless this is to help save up for said plane.

Let's leave the chair out of this!

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[–] repungnant_canary 100 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Most people mention the costs of owning aircraft vs a sim, but there's another possible reason: health. People come in different shapes and forms and not everyone who loves aviation is able to get II or even III medical class. So flight simulation is their only option to be a "pilot".

I mean, on VATSIM (popular aviation simulation network) there's a group of visually impaired people who have made a special interface so they can fly an aircraft even though they can't see!

Simulation (of any kind) gives many people what they can't get in any other way. And as with any other hobby, as long as it's not damaging to other aspects of your life, let people enjoy what they want

[–] Crackhappy 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wait, that's super fucking cool. Do you have a link to the way they're able to fly blind?

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[–] betterdeadthanreddit 77 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The double-standard on display here is just disgusting. Sure, it's perfectly fine to modify your home entertainment system into a fake airplane but I try a little remodeling to make work feel more like home and it's all "security will escort you off the premises" and "we're taking away your pilot's license". Boils my blood.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

I know, right?

Modified your PC into a flight sim and no one bat an eye.

Modified your cockpit into a gaming rig and everyone losses their mind.

[–] BradleyUffner 60 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That's just a mid-range setup. The real simmers have at least 3 monitors.

[–] fidodo 25 points 11 months ago

Monitors are probably the cheapest part of a flight sim setup too

[–] Psythik 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Real simmers have a VR headset and one of those human gyroscope things that spins on 3 axes.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] PilferJynx 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Man, at some point it might be cheaper to buy a plane.

[–] WoahWoah 40 points 11 months ago (7 children)

A plane. A cheap, 2-4 seat prop plane. A full sim rig can fly ANY PLANE and spaceships too!

I am not in any way a sim gamer of any of these sorts. My inputs are keyboard, mouse, or controller. And I suck at everything I play, and I try to limit my gaming time (and expenditures on gaming).

But I kind of get it, you know?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Some of those things for PC flight sims are straight up real cockpit pieces. Dude is simply buying his plane one bit at a time until he can assemble the whole thing.

I've installed Internet for a dude who had a setup this gnarly. And to top it all off, he lived on a piece of land attached to an aircraft museum. He really loves planes.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Some people are so dedicated to their hobbies and I love seeing it.

An extended family member of mine hosted a reunion at his house years ago, and he apparently lived in a neighborhood where many people have small airplane hangars attached to their houses instead of a normal garage. It was nuts. You're just walking through a normal-looking house in a normal-looking suburban neighborhood, go through what would otherwise be a garage door, and suddenly you're in a big hangar.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Do you know how much it costs to annual a Cessna 172? You could build 3 of these rigs a year for what the aviation equivalent of a 1988 Toyota Camry costs to maintain and fuel.

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[–] brlemworld 37 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Planes are expensive AF to maintain

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[–] DigitalTraveler42 37 points 11 months ago

The FAA and similar entities won't let pilots do all the fun and crazy shit they want to do that they can do in sim games.

Try buzzing a neighborhood in your plane, watch how fast you lose your pilots license, much safer doing this stuff in a sim.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd say good chance this guy does have a plane.

[–] Nastybutler 14 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I'd put money that he has at least a small plane. I work in the motorcycle industry and there's a large overlap between pilots and motorcycle riders for some reason. Quite a few private pilots have pretty well set up flight sim rigs at home. Not to this extreme, but most have the basics for running MS Flight Simulator

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"pilots and motorcycle riders for some reason"

The suicide drive is strong. Also, I blame top gun.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Only a single monitor, and then it's not even an ultrawide?

What kind of a low-rent setup is this?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I’m doing the same with my work from home set-up. I even have a mannequin dressed up as a “boss” who hovers at my shoulder while I try to get stuff done .

[–] Kase 19 points 11 months ago

“boss” who hovers at my shoulder while I try to get stuff done

A cat would also work for this.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] cm0002 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol first thing I thought of, 4/10, cool control panels, but not even a large curved display

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

The $20 chair is definitely a statement of priorities and my favorite part of the image.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

It's not even a full motion setup, you can go way more expensive and still be cheaper than an actual plane

[–] Donjuanme 20 points 11 months ago

Chair isn't even articulated, 6/10 tops, I wonder if he even has force feedback.

[–] Telodzrum 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Pretty cool with the overhead and side panels.

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[–] Boozilla 17 points 11 months ago

Someone posts something kinda cool.

Doofuses of the internet: we must find all the faults to prove how much smarter we are

This is probably a work in progress. And this person may not have the same preferences and priorities as you for their own personal setup.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

just buy a plane

Yeah, I don't think you can get a Mig-29 or a F-16 off e-bay, amazon or craigslist.

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[–] Schal330 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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