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Putin falsely claims past US elections ‘falsified’ through mail-in voting (thehill.com)
submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave to c/politics
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Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that U.S. elections have been falsified through mail-in voting.

“In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting … they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that’s it,” Putin said, according to Reuters.

Putin, who is running for reelection in Russia, did not offer evidence to back his claims, Reuters reported.

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[–] jordanlund 79 points 10 months ago (3 children)

"In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting ... they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that's it,"

Problem - That's not the way vote by mail works.

  1. You register to vote and place a signature on file.

  2. You get your ballot in the mail and vote.

  3. You put the ballot in the mailing envelope and sign the back of the envelope.

  4. When the ballot is returned, they compare the signature on the envelope with the signature on file, if it matches, the ballot is set aside for counting.

  5. If there's a PROBLEM:

A) Missing signature
B) Signature doesn't match
C) Ballot damaged or unreadable
D) Ballot already recorded as present

The ballot gets returned to the voter for correction, assuming there's enough time for it to be corrected.

What Putin describes wouldn't work, because the fake ballots either wouldn't have a signature, wouldn't have a valid signature, or wouldn't correspond to a registered voter.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago

Yes, but facts are inconvenient when making propaganda from a hostile foreign dictatorship nation.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

All true. Last election I had a hand injury that affected my signature so I took it in person to the county elections office, where they verified it was me by my ID.

[–] captainlezbian 6 points 10 months ago

Also it’s important to say that as far as swaying US elections goes voter fraud is high cost, high risk, low reward. Disinformation campaigns and voter disenfranchisement are far more effective tactics, you can tell because that’s how Putin influences US elections

[–] LEDZeppelin 62 points 10 months ago

The real Republican front runner, ladies and gentlemen.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s just uncanny how much his talking points echo the mainstream Republican platform.

[–] FuglyDuck 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

that's not what's uncanny. What's uncanny is how they can still talk clearly while sucking his dick.

[–] captainlezbian 4 points 10 months ago

Is it really? Or is it that they’ve influenced each other for years now. He’s just gotten comfortable shoving it in our faces.

I hope he falls out of a window with polonium in his blood

[–] Dkarma 38 points 10 months ago

This is hilariously false. Every ballot is tracked and they literally call u if there's a discrepancy. Ask how I know...

[–] FuglyDuck 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well... Putin would know. he's an expert on rigging elections...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

He's rigged 110% of all elections he's partaken in.

[–] anewbeginning 21 points 10 months ago

Will this cunt die already.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Depends on the state, I guess. We receive ours in the mail with unique id numbers, then mail them back. If you need a new ballot you have to declare the previous one spoiled. Fuck that asshole.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

he's still mad Trump lost

[–] FlyingSquid 12 points 10 months ago

Okay, everybody. Got your talking points? Now disseminate. You go to Fox News, you go to Newsmax, you go to the Wall Street Journal and I'll head over to the Epoch Times. Then we'll all meet together at the radio station where Hannity does his show.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

“In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting … they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that’s it,” Putin said, according to Reuters.

Putin, who is running for reelection in Russia, did not offer evidence to back his claims, Reuters reported.

If he were to win in Russia’s March election, which is expected, he would become the Kremlin’s longest-serving leader since Josef Stalin, who died in 1951.

Putin, who warned in his televised comments Tuesday that the war against Ukraine could see an “irreparable blow,” has worked to eliminate what little political opposition remains ahead of the election.

Former President Trump has supported the claim, without evidence, that there is fraud in early and absentee voting, which has become a theme in both his 2020 and 2024 presidential campaigns.

He targeted Democrat-run states over their expansion to ensure safety, although experts noted there was minimal evidence that mail-in voting causes fraud.

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