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[–] silver13 47 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Constant whining is basically a national sport in Germany. Yes, there are way too many poor and homeless people here too, but the ones crying the loudest are mostly middle class people who are financially secure. Its either that their neighbour has a bigger car or they blame society that no one likes them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

This is such a big factor. Good luck forcing a Finn to complain about literally anything.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago

Why is the top comment some stereotype trying to explain away the results?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I'm surprised at France being so close to EU average. Being constantly dissatisfied is basically our point of national pride

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

It feels like many countries claim that as a national sport. In Austria "sudern" (i.e. complaining but not actually doing anything about it) is considered a time-honored tradition, and yet according to this we are among the most satisfied.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I guess the French are happy that Macron has given them enough things to be dissatisfied about.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

ITT: people from different countries claiming that their country specifically loves complaining.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You'd say it's not a zero sum game but life satisfaction levels in Poland are through the roof because we see that they're so low in Germany.

[–] kabukimeow 13 points 8 months ago

Good to know everyone else around me is satisfied πŸ˜…

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I’m surprised life satisfaction is so high in Italy tbf

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah agreed. You always hear people complaining about literally everything, turns out we still are above the EU average though.

On the other hand over here everyone talks about Germany as if it was heaven on Earth, but apparently the Germans disagree with that statement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I don't think many Italians dream of having a German life as much as they want German wages. You'd have to pry the food, culture and climate out of their cold dead hands.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

The one guy I know semi well who lives in Germany straddles this weird line of both hating it and loving it there

[–] JubilantJaguar 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Here's one theory: it's because they live in Italy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What do you mean? Wages are terrible and services too but it costs as much as Belgium and France, with a fraction of the salary. People often blame high taxes but in Belgium they are much higher and the country is as big as Sicily or Sardinia

Working in Italy is painful: you have to work for 9 hours a day since break is not counted in a workday, most companies are so small you have virtually no benefits and the family-like governance is terrible, and for a lot of companies you are expected to do overtime. If you work in restoration it’s even worse.

Italy is good/decent only for tourists and elders, but since most of the costs for younger people are paid by their parents it seems better than it actually is.

To add a fun fact: a friend of mine is very proud to earn 1.4k a month with lots of straordinaries and the liquidation pay (no thirtieth month)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Bulgaria my friend, what’s wrong? :c

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Romania on the other hand is doing exceptional.

[–] waigl 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's weird, I wouldn't have imagined those two to be hugely different when it comes to to things like human development or corruption, but in on this map, they're on opposite ends of the spectrum, Bulgaria being the lowest value bar none, and Romania being surpassed only by Austria...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One thing I like about Romania is that it seems to be steadily improving the last 30 years or so. Granted, it had a terrible starting point, and improvements are slow as hell, but whenever I check up on them things never seem to be actively getting much worse.

[–] Candelestine 2 points 8 months ago

My guess is they're that much closer, geographically and chronologically, to what real authoritarian hell actually looks like. So, they have some actual perspective.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

All young Bulgarians leave as soon as they can.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

The heck? My country aint a 7.9 Im calling bs if the highest order. We are drowning in bureaucracy hell the moment you are doing something even slightly different. Some of our apartments and housing is always listed under the most expensive options in Europe.

Who made this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I know this map is only the EU, but it sure would be nice to see Norway, the UK, and Switzerland.