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[–] [email protected] 90 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Hey if paying for a game isn’t owning it, pirating it isn’t stealing it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

It never was, it's just copyright infringement.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

pirating isnt stealing, its a different crime!

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 10 months ago (13 children)

How the fuck is Steam Deck a monopoly? Literally anyone could have made a great Linux based handheld. Anyone still can do it. Only Valve did.

[–] platypus_plumba 13 points 10 months ago

And Valve would probably love for the new handheld to also use the Valve libraries, if that helps them penetrate the market even faster.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They weren't even the first, Ayn and Ayaneo were making handheld gaming computers well before Valve or the other major companies started to get involved.

[–] dejected_warp_core 4 points 10 months ago

This isn't even Valve's first dedicated platform, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Machine_(computer)

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[–] BigTrout75 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Monopoly? More like, the choice that doesn't suck. Same game store for last 20 years. Free online play for games. FPS games support mouse and keyboard. No OS fee or subscription. Crazy cheap deals with stuff like humble bundle. Plus: sharing library with friends and family supported. Meanwhile Xbox 360 store is closing this year. Microsoft, Nintendo and PlayStation are all trying to get me to subscribe to a Netflix style gaming service.

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[–] Zehzin 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Considering the amount of PC portables releasing these days and the fact Nintendo made a portable that sold 9 figures, I wouldn't worry about a monopoly just yet

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

People in online forums and pretty much everywhere else as well always talk PS vs XBox and never talk about Nintendo. Nintendo absolutely crushes the competition with almost everything they release. The WiiU has been about their only miss in the last few decades. I think the GameCube may have gone a bit stale but not positive on that one.

The switch has sold over 132 million systems. PS4 sold 113 million its entire run and PS5 is sitting on 50 million. Poor Xbox series s/x has only sold 21 million.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Valve is a massive company because they put their customers first, go figure.

It's not a monopoly, most pc gamers choose to use steam because of the significantly better user experience it offers vs the competition

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't know why you have any downvotes. Everything you wrote is true. Steam has a very nice user experience, but if you don't want to use it, GOG, Epic, and retail still exist as a means of buying PC games. It just so happens that Steam makes the whole process painless.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

It's so funny when you remember what people said (or better: screamed) when Steam first came into existence... It was pretty much the opposite of what you wrote in your post.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I switched from mostly Playstation to mostly Steam slowly over the last decade cause I like their services. It just works. I explicitly at this point won't get a computer game that isn't on Steam. I own one of the little physical Steam Links and cant believe it's still supported by Vavle. Steam Deck was the final nail. I once didn't like a game and got a refund on it. I have made older games playable and comfortable with the controller custom configurations. My older games and game saves still work on my new PC's cause it's all mostly backwards compatible. I love the Guide, Discussions, and Community Content parts of Steam. It adds so much life, answers questions, builds camaraderie, for some games.

With Playstation, the 2011 hack was bad enough. Being a day 1 Vita adopter, I feel forgotten and taken advantage of. I've had to deal with Sony repairs before and didn't get my console back for months. Before Sony introduced 2FA far too late, my account got hacked. Sony rep's treated me like a criminal and only gave me my account back because I so happened to still have the unfunctional console (and serial number) I originally created my PSN account on like 6-8 years earlier. PS4 initially lacked basic features PS3 had. PS5 has done the same. The games hardly drop in price relative to PC games. Backwards compatibility is questionable every generation. I signed up for PS Now to stream PS3 games and a month later they changed it and stopped adding more PS3 games. The PS Portal and proprietary wireless only further shows how stupid Sony is.

I'll never buy another Playstation again.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, they worked really hard for this and did tremendosly improve linux gamig while doing so.

Having a monopoly because your product is too good comoared to everyone is something different than forcing a monopoly with market power, and I think that in this case it could be okay

[–] MolochAlter 3 points 10 months ago

Having a monopoly because everyone chooses to purchase from you is not "having a monopoly", so not only should it be ok, it should be a wake up call to the competition that they can and should do better.

[–] Linkerbaan 30 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Meanwhile Nintendo releasing the same chip from 2016 for the 8th year in a row on an underpowered handheld.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Who cares if the Switch doesn't have the hardware to compete with Sony and Xbox? It never was trying to compete with Sony or Xbox. It's been a serviceable device with a huge library of awesome games. Graphics aren't gameplay.

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[–] Rooki 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At least they do it with a good freakin console. XD

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And I love how it's the opposite of other console approaches.

Everyone else: "let's rope some devs into exclusives, and make some more in house, that'll lock them in!"

Valve: "let's develop improvements to OSS publicly, so it runs better on PC for everyone (and our product)"

[–] rtxn 31 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Microsoft came crawling back. EA came crawling back. Ubisoft came crawling back. Square Enix came crawling back. Activision came crawling back. Most viable competitor can't turn a profit despite third-party exclusives and free games.

Now they've got handheld users and the entire Linux gaming community suctioned onto Gaben's tits.

[–] kittenzrulz123 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a Linux user I can confirm that I only use Steam (with the exception being the Prism Launcher), the funniest part is any of Steams competitors could launch on Linux with minimum effort but instead they chose to essentially give Steam a monopoly over Linux gaming.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

exactly, literally every tecnology that steam uses, or created for steam/steam deck is open source

[–] corus_kt 15 points 10 months ago

Gaben's milkshake brings all the boys to the yard

[–] Sheeple 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Meanwhile Nintendo is laughing it's ass off because half of their library is based on gimmick consoles that aren't easily emulated. They figured out long ago consoles would die if they didn't start innovating

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[–] Rooki 18 points 10 months ago

Yeah i like its even open for non steam game launchers ( epic games etc... ).

And the trackpads are my favorite, its so easy to scroll or move the cursor with them. They even have a super long charging cable. Its just valves baby, you know it when you have one.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

EPIC GAMES: Why will no one buy games from me 😭? The market is unfair!

[–] Rooki 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The steamdeck could theoretically install epic games launcher!!!! So if the user wants epic games on it then do it ;D

But because epic games doesnt have really good controller support or steam input support it is not so good. But you could just add the games to your steam library ;D

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I get all that. But if both companies will the games, then why bother with epic, steam gives a lot more than just the game. Epic is a half baked experience.

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[–] RQG 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't think the current mobile gaming monopoly is going anywhere. Switch or deck are tiny compared to phones.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

i think of phones as tools, not gaming consoles or computers

of course because games on it are either money grabs or used to waste time, rarely is a phone game an actual game

[–] twistypencil 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So wait. You can run switch games on the deck?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

The secret is crime

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ryujinx and yuzu both work and run well in my experience. Biggest barrier was navigating the deck file structure for setting them up, but not impossible. Both also perform well via streaming from a desktop.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm out ofnthe loop, but I hear good things about yuzu. There are other emulators, but I don't remember any (I hear they are also good though).

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[–] rabiddolphin 7 points 10 months ago

Steam Deck is a step in the right direction but I wish they'd make games

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