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[–] setsneedtofeed 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I hate to be “that guy” but I am fairly sure that Schürzen (German side skirts) were added to tanks to deflect AT rifle rounds that were being encountered in large numbers against the Soviets, not a measure against HEAT.

The Sherman sandbag protection has also long been a point of controversy. I believe the wartime tests showed that sandbags were somewhere between useless and of very limited use. I think this is accurate given that the spacing provided by a sandbag against HEAT would not provide much difference, and that modern external (external add ons being different than some internal designs) spaced armor is largely misunderstood by the layman in that it doesn’t usually rely on prematurely detonating but in catching the round and dismantling it or deflecting it.

I do apologize for being light on sources, as I am on the go at the moment which makes research tough and I don’t have physical resources at hand. I will look to try and come back and fill some in.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

but the russian human defence could work?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

further testing to commence in Spring

[–] Mediocre_Bard 1 points 10 months ago
[–] setsneedtofeed 7 points 10 months ago

I am skeptical.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Yes. Statistics indicate that 270000 Unexplosive Unreactive Armyguys provide a slight survivability chance to the t72.

[–] Aqarius 4 points 10 months ago

Honestly, as defence against a weapon with a range of about 100m, a bunch of guys with guns and a higher vantage point would do the job.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

As a sort of most horrifying and most ludicrous means possible of population control of the operating force employing this tactic anywhere near frontlines, or in areas that do not have air defence suitable to stop drones or aircraft, yes.

As a means of stopping anything that would not otherwise be stopped by the vehicle's armor, no.

Unless it turns out the vehicle is actually made of aluminum instead of steel. Then... maybe yes for 50 cal rounds coming from beyond about a kilometer, maybe less.

[–] MaxVoltage 2 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I miss the various tank subreddits.

[–] setsneedtofeed 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think either [email protected]

or

[email protected]

could serve as suitable short term stopgaps.

[–] MaxVoltage 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] setsneedtofeed 3 points 10 months ago

Be the change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I want the source for the bottom image please.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I've seen it on discord alot, I think UAF tweeted it. Basically led to a massacre using FPV drone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I saw it on lemmy earlier today. One of the Ukraine communities I assume, so prob from a telegram channel originally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I don't suppose you remember the title?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I’m sorry I don’t. If I come across it, I’ll let you know again.

[–] JustUseMint 1 points 9 months ago

Mom said it's my turn to post this