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Microsoft Overtakes Apple as World's Most Valuable Company::Microsoft today overtook Apple as the world's most valuable public company by market value. Apple's share price dropped by just one percent,...

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Cool. Let’s break them both down and replace them with a thousand smaller, employee owned, and ethical companies.

[–] BetaDoggo_ 30 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Fragmenration is not preferred by most users and many of the services and systems these two run require large international teams. That's not to say that they don't need to be checked by antitrust.

[–] Mortoc 20 points 11 months ago

What would the world look like if we fragmented the tech giants but then regulated them by requiring open standards so that things could mix and match as customers see fit?

[–] NegativeInf 2 points 11 months ago

Baby Bell the shit out of both of them and make it stick longer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

whats the difference if edge for instance is from another company?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

I am not saying that it couldn't be split but a thousand companies doesn't sound a good idea. Some of the stuff they do cannot be done at that size I would suspect.

[–] DingoBilly 47 points 11 months ago (4 children)

It is pretty arbitrary as others have said.

But tbh, never understood why Apple is so highly valuable in the first place. Consumers are stupid.

[–] sturmblast 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apple is overvalued tremendously imo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

iPod, iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, AirPods, AirTags. None of those products were the first, just the first competent product that offers good usability in a sea of otherwise mediocre options.

As long as electronics makers keep sleeping at the wheel Apple will be able to capitalize on creating things people actually want to use.

The Vision Pro will be the next test. If it fails, and the follow up doesn’t sell, Apple will face a rude awakening and their stock value will drop. If they can’t succeed in the category after that, it will tank.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Why is Tesla so valuable? They sell way less cars then the old boys.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They do make some slick feeling hardware though.

[–] sturmblast 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So do almost every other PC oem these days

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but how do you wade through the fields of bullshit to find a decent PC laptop? PC manufacturers have like 200 SKUs.

Like I go to dell.com, what’s the best option? Inspiron? Precision? Latitude? Vostro? Which of those lines is “premium”? And each of those lines has like 4 models each. And that’s just one manufacturer.

But ultimately you buy one of those machines, bring it home, boot up windows and get served ads in the fucking start menu.

Meanwhile I bought the lamest laptop in Apple’s lineup for my daughter, and the thing is solid aluminum with a great display, huge trackpad, great battery and lightning fast processor.

[–] projectsquared 1 points 11 months ago

And no pop-up add bs.

[–] asdfasdfasdf 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But then Windows sucks ass.

Also, every other OEM in the world makes hardware as good as Apple? No. Maybe some, but definitely not even most.

[–] Desistance 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That they are. I'm sure you're going to get hit with the " it's my money, I do what I do want with it" deflection.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

A fool and his money are soon parted.

That said, apple does make great hardware and has/is pushing the industry forward.

But boy are they anti consume and competitive.

They even make fantastic hardware backdoor at some unknown price. Lol

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

One cartel became bigger than another one.

[–] sir_reginald 24 points 11 months ago

Don't you all have a business or economics community to post this?

If I subscribe to technology, I want tech news. Not how this month one tech giant is valued slightly higher than another.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] baronvonj 6 points 11 months ago

Stockholders

[–] reddig33 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

These articles are so meaningless. Every other week one overtakes the other.

[–] db2 11 points 11 months ago

It's geriatric stock bros giving each other handys.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Uhhhh no? What was the last time MSFT had a higher market capitalization than AAPL? A lot longer than one week ago…

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Tried to check, 2021 may have been the last time. My fucks were to low so I didn't want to verify further than a 1 off haha

[–] PanArab 8 points 11 months ago

These valuations are just that. If they attempt to cash out by selling all the shares the value will collapse. It is all about potential for future gains.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

itoddlers btfo

[–] werefreeatlast 6 points 11 months ago

Hold up guys! It's just a big misunderstanding! The Tesla parked at the Redmond parking lot is actually Bertha's. She doesn't work at Microsoft. She works for Uber.

Again sorry, bad evaluation.. apple can have it's Crown back for another 10 seconds.... okay now! This time Microsoft really is the...no wait! The homeless guy! The hobo just picked up the nickel! One more microsecond... okay now Microsoft is the clear winner by a single microwave oven!

Oh no! Fred! He's about to cook his fish dish again! Someone stop him!

[–] kibiz0r 2 points 11 months ago

Over the past year, Microsoft's support for artificial intelligence tools by backing OpenAI has helped boost its value

…which I’m sure is not just hype and grift obscuring a heap of pending lawsuits.