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Australian lawmakers have banned the performance of the Nazi salute in public and outlawed the display or sale of Nazi hate symbols such as the swastika in landmark legislation that went into effect in the country Monday. The new laws also make the act of glorifying OR praising acts of terrorism a criminal offense.

The crime of publicly performing the Nazi salute or displaying the Nazi swastika is punishable by up to 12 months in prison, according to the Reuters news agency.

Mark Dreyfus, Australia's Attorney-General, said in a press release Monday that the laws — the first of their kind in the country — sent "a clear message: there is no place in Australia for acts and symbols that glorify the horrors of the Holocaust and terrorist acts."

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[–] [email protected] 158 points 10 months ago (4 children)

"No one in Australia will be allowed to glorify or profit from acts and symbols that celebrate the Nazis and their evil ideology," the press release said.

Glad to see someone mention the Profiting part.

I've always suspected a lot of this was due to grifters stoking these A-holes up to increase sales of the flags, shirts, hats, etc.

The Brandon thing was a big boon to the Maga grifters as it created more new things one needs to collect to show your true level of being a Patriot.

You could then change out your Trump flag curtains for the Brandon stuff. Some are brave enough to change them out for the Nazis stuff when the time is right too. It completes the set when combined with the Southern Surrender flags as your curtains or bath towel.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago

I suspect that is also why their memes are quite slow to cycle trough. A lot of prolific figures need to sell their stock of stupid tat before they can move on to new things.

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[–] Chiyo 66 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese condemned the reports of the chants as "horrific" and "appealing" at the time of the incident.

You mean “appalling”, right? Hope that was a typo.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Solid typo on the side of CBS. Or, alternatively, a surprising amount of honesty from an Australian politician.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Like a gay fundie describing Chris Hemsworth: "horrifically appealing!"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

There is a typo, he meant "terrific" not "horrific"

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[–] soda3x 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

What implications does this have on media using the swastika? I know that for games like Wolfenstein the swastika is everywhere and while it doesn't really retract from the experience by being absent, it would be really strange for that to suddenly not be OK, especially in the context of Wolfenstein where you're tearing the Nazis a new one

[–] ours 21 points 10 months ago (4 children)

German and Austrian versions of the new Wolfenstein games have swastikas and such removed/replaced.

I remember being pissed off the version sold on Steam to Switzerland was the censored version for no reason other than Switzerland is often stuffed with German and Austrian markets. When I blast sci-fi Nazis to bits, I prefer they look authentic.

[–] 9715698 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Since the last Wolfenstein game was released, the law has been changed in Germany lifting the total ban on Swastikas in video games.

I don't recall any more recent WWII games where I've seen a swastika though.

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[–] DillyDaily 16 points 10 months ago

The actual law bans using the swastika to "glorify or profit from Nazi idiology".

Wolfenstein would not be impacted by the ban because at the core of the gameplay, the Nazis are the bad guys. It does not glorify the Nazis or celebrate them.

Sure Bathesda is profiting from the game, but they aren't profiting from the glorification of Nazi idiology, they're profiting from people's desire to shoot zombie Nazis in the face.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

It should becovered by freedom of art.

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[–] xc2215x 44 points 10 months ago

Good for Australia.

[–] yamanii 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Surprised they weren't banned.

[–] throwwyacc 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Probably because it hadn't been an issue until recently Strange times indeed

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I mean, I'm fine with that. That seems like something that should have been done a while ago.

It's when they try and extend such things to saying any criticism of Israel is illegal, like what Germany is trying right now.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Germany is not doing that at all. Germans are just aware of their past and almost all will therefore be careful what they say and also point that out to other Germans. It is not forbidden to criticise Israel though and probably it never will be. Most Germans will just be the last to do it on their own individual initiative.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In Germany, debate rages over a state policy to support Israel, no matter what

As Gaza is bombarded by Israeli forces, a polemic is raging in Germany over a state policy that makes criticism of Israel blasphemous because it's seen as antisemitic.

https://www.courthousenews.com/in-germany-debate-rages-over-a-state-policy-to-support-israel-no-matter-what/

[–] JJROKCZ 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s not a crime to not support Israel, just taboo and against stated policy. Policy isn’t law though

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I would not say it's a taboo within the German population to speak out against the current Israeli government.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Where did you get that from?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

In Germany, debate rages over a state policy to support Israel, no matter what

As Gaza is bombarded by Israeli forces, a polemic is raging in Germany over a state policy that makes criticism of Israel blasphemous because it's seen as antisemitic.

https://www.courthousenews.com/in-germany-debate-rages-over-a-state-policy-to-support-israel-no-matter-what/

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's a poorly written article that confuses with its wrong translation of "Staatsraison" and omits the classification of Samidoun as a wing of PFLP, declared a terrorist organization by both the EU and the US. Supporting terrorist organizations is illegal. People getting canceled does not necessarily mean they did something illegal, and there hasn't been a discussion about criminalizing criticism of Israel.

Criticizing Netanyahu's actions is very popular in Germany. It's just true that the German government does not do that enough.

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