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‘January 6 never ended’: alarm at Trump pardon pledge for Capitol insurrectionists (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave to c/news

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The ex-president has said he would pardon those convicted of violence, obstructing Congress and seditious conspiracy

In the three years to the day since the insurrection at the US Capitol, great strides have been made in shoring up American democracy: hundreds of rioters have been prosecuted, legislation has been passed to bolster electoral safeguards and Donald Trump has been charged over his efforts to subvert the 2020 election.

But as the country marks the third anniversary of one of its darkest days in modern times, a pall hangs in the air. It comes from Trump himself and his promise, growing steadily louder as the 2024 presidential election approaches, that if he wins he will pardon those convicted of acts of violence, obstructing Congress and seditious conspiracy on 6 January 2021.

The scope of Trump’s pardon pledge is astonishing both for its quantity and quality. The former president has made clear that – should he be confirmed as the Republican presidential candidate and go on to triumph in the November election – he would contemplate pardoning every one of those prosecuted for their participation in the insurrection.

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[–] PunnyName 64 points 11 months ago

Yep, the coup marches on. The next few (several?) presidential elections are going to be awash with conspiracy and Stochastic Terrorism.

People still think it was stolen, and they aren't gonna let up until either they have all the control they possibly can (hey SCOTUS, fuck you), they die, or their opponents die.

Welcome to America. It's a shit show with no intermission.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago

So, he's going to pardon Antifa and the FBI deep state? All his followers must be pissed. Oh they knew all along that was bullshit and are thrilled to do away with the rule of law? And that's a page right from the fascism playbook? Weird. No one could've predicted this.

[–] rbhfd 45 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Would this not be considered as "providing comfort to insurrectionists", as described in the 14th amendment. Even just promising pardoning them.

So even if they argue he supposedly wasn't involved in it, it would still disqualify him from office.

[–] vanontom 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If we had a legitimate Supreme Court, he would not be able to run. If we had a legitimate justice system, he would've been locked up (or fled to his favorite dictator). If we had a decent populace, he would be a just another spoiled brat, irrelevant clown.

[–] FlyingSquid 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how many of them know that a pardon is an admission of guilt?

I wonder if Trump knows that?

[–] Zahille7 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does it matter?

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It sure will to anyone who ever Googles them. Such as a future employer. They think this will get them off the hook entirely.

[–] jaybone 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’m guessing they will work at places where their employer approves of such things.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 11 months ago

If they can all find work at such places. Easier said than done.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They'll be able to put a trump pardon on their resume and swim in job offers.

[–] jaybone 1 points 11 months ago

Trump doesn’t like people who swim.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

No he won't

Trump never pays his bills, and only hels those that are useful to him in some way.

This just again riling is base and getting cheap publicity

[–] snekerpimp 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“If I do his dirty work for him, the god king may forgive me?!”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's full on religious zealotry at this point...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

They need legit cult deprogramming

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

It comes from Trump himself and his promise, growing steadily louder as the 2024 presidential election approaches, that if he wins he will pardon those convicted of acts of violence, obstructing Congress and seditious conspiracy on 6 January 2021

I bet he has no intention to follow through on that promise. At least not for most of them.

Maybe for 1 or 2 who still have the ability to do something for Trump in the future, but the majority will be ignored.

[–] anon_8675309 8 points 11 months ago

Great strides!? Hardly. More like bare minimum.

[–] CADmonkey 1 points 11 months ago

Wasn't there also some other group of his fanbois who he said he would pardon, but he didn't?

[–] FlashMobOfOne 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

He's going to win, and it's going to happen.

I'm not sure why everyone's so aghast at this. The man literally sold the resolute desk for ad space. There were zero meaningful repercussions for his choice to drum up a mob to attack the Capitol.

The real problem is that the next attack will undoubtedly be worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol. He's not going to win. Not because he's dangerous and Democrats will stop him. He's not going to win because he's fat, smelly, and BORING. That's the ultimate sin in entertainment.

He's not new anymore. No Democrats are going to vote for him to "shake things up". He's older and can barely make rambling jokes anymore. Being president takes a lot out of you. It's going to be obvious that he just doesn't have what it takes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, he's completely unqualified for the office. But he was last time too. A lot of people didn't vote based on how qualified he was, they voted on "he tells it like it is".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's what they said. But they don't really want that. They want a powerful person to be entertaining and validate their beliefs about the world. Reagan was that person for a while, GW Bush was, Rush Limbaugh was too. The main qualifications are being entertaining, powerful, and validating.

Trump is losing his power through massive legal trouble. He's not as entertaining as before. He's older and fatter (probably smellier too). His fans will not vote as hard as they did before. They will just complain about the "deep state" and drink a beer.