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Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards, though not yet.

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[–] thehatfox 298 points 6 months ago (26 children)

So now Windows bloat is extending to the physical keyboard itself.

Looking at the Microsoft blog post they haven't said exactly how they want keyboard layouts to change. So on a full size keyboard this could be either new key entirely, or replace an existing (and arguably more useful) key.

[–] killeronthecorner 172 points 6 months ago (9 children)

They should put it adjacent to the up arrow key so that when I hit it accidentally, copilot can ask "did you mean to press the up arrow key?", which will cause me to smash the keyboard with my fists and then I'll need to buy another one. Sales will skyrocket.

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[–] thezeesystem 184 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Before I even read it I knew it was more ads or AI of some sort and yep it's both. Sure yeah we need more ads. Can I get a Microsoft store button on mouses now? Ohoh a dedicated 2nd screen for ads on every monitor. We must please the share holders and the rich!

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (10 children)

I'm plenty fine with all ads consolidated to a dedicated monitor, that would certainly never face the wall on minimal brightness

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 160 points 6 months ago (6 children)

If only keyboards would have function keys for this purpose, named F1 to F10 for example, so any program could use them for their specific functions...

[–] Sheeple 81 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nahh gotta place them where they're obvious in your face and a constant reminder of CONSUME PRODUCT and be accidently pressed! Can guarantee you it'll take up part of the space of a key hotspot

[–] deafboy 53 points 6 months ago (6 children)

At least on the PC, it's easier to remap the buttons. What enrages me more are the TV remote controls with buttons dedicated to specific streaming apps. I mean... none of these services will outlive the TV itself. I'll just have to look at buttons that do nothing for years.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Maybe even F13 to F24 if more is needed?
Because they used to exist, and support for them still does. Really handy for macro keys.

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[–] LufyCZ 125 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I'm getting Bixby button flashbacks.

Ho well, my wallet's gonna cry but I'm sure the mechkeyboard community will welcome my ass

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[–] snek 109 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And yet another feature no one ever requested or ever will

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 6 months ago (1 children)

copilot key will eventually be required

Fuck that, and fuck you, Microsoft

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[–] gedaliyah 88 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Microsoft learns nothing from their continued pattern of going all-in on a trendy and unproven concept. Windows 8 "live tiles" that were supposed to create one look and feel across devices, Cortana was supposed to be the digital assistant of the future, they even did their own poorly executed folding phone.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They never really go all in. They go full force at something but they never really fully commit

Like live tiles was fine except the large sections of the Windows still used the old system, so you'd click a button in settings and suddenly you'd be reverted back to the old window system. Because they never bothered to upgrade that part of the OS.

Microsoft's problem is that they can never be arsed to be consistent.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 6 months ago (2 children)

OR, hear me out, we just have it mapped to alt+win(meta) key and this will be a nothing burger.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 50 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Stop being such a socialist. They need to sell more keyboards, and to make the keyboards you own unique to their brand.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Have you met keyboard people? You don’t need to do anything to sell them more keyboards.

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[–] 0ddysseus 77 points 6 months ago

M$ can get absolutely fucked

[–] ikidd 73 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Gee, I imagine this will go the same way as Cortana, but now there will be a key forever visible to be it's gravestone.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (26 children)

Oh cool, another useless gimmick just like the 'Office Key'

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago (29 children)

And again, install Linux and get rid of this Microsoft bullshit

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[–] Cheskaz 68 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I swear I blinked and suddenly AI was so ubiquitous that I feel like I'm living, studying and writing incorrectly...

[–] dlpkl 39 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Now I know how the boomers felt when the internet went from dialup to pocketable

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We’re in the early hype phase of a new innovation fad. It’ll die down and then we’ll find out what it’s ACTUALLY useful for.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 6 months ago (36 children)

Ugh. Why do keyboards have to have Microsoft logos. I hate it. I want nothing to do with them.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 months ago (8 children)

I would imagine this isn't going to go over very well with a lot of companies. I would bet many already ban employees using copilot or other AI assistants because they don't want their company's proprietary data being sent to Microsoft or Google or whoever. Stick a key on the keyboard that, if accidentally hit, brings up copilot (and maybe sends data to Microsoft), and those keyboards might be banned.

Some companies will probably just deal with it by setting up their PCs so that copilot is disabled and that key does something else. But, other companies will either not be technically savvy enough to do that, or will not want to take a risk of someone accidentally reverting to the default behaviour.

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[–] IchNichtenLichten 62 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They're so desperate for AI to be a thing.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago (14 children)

AI is absolutely "a thing", not sure there's really a debate about that. The desperation here is they want to be the first company to completely immerse itself in Generative AI, but they're moving so fast they're just shoving every experiment they can come up with down their customers' throats.

AI is going to be a huge part of the future, but Microsoft might not be a part of that future if they fuck up with over implementation of nascent tech.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 55 points 6 months ago (9 children)

My bad, I should be more specific. They're so desperate for a fancy chatbot to be a part of everybody's workflow that they're going to add a special key that is not needed, or wanted by the vast majority.

I hope this can be remapped to something useful.

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[–] crsu 61 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I can't even begin to articulate my hatred for the current Microsoft business model. People used to joke how evil they were but it's only continued to get worse

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[–] geekworking 60 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] andrewth09 54 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bixby button, but for Windows

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[–] theherk 53 points 6 months ago (3 children)

They should just rename the Menu key to the “Flavor of the Week” key. Then they can just rotate which pie in the sky, fetch feature is mapped to it during its period of non-use.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago (16 children)

im not going to lie this is one of the stupidest things ive ever seen a major tech company do

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago

This is way more about advertising Copilot than actually needing a new key. M$ gonna $.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 50 points 6 months ago

I’ll shut that stuff off just like I made every effort to disable Cortana.

It’s unwanted, invasive, and unnecessary.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago

Some Microsoft exec: "Hey, remember when TV remotes started getting a dedicated Netflix button?"

[–] kosanovskiy 48 points 6 months ago (9 children)

You thought Clippy was dead? Think again, that monster never dies. and is not back bigger than ever in its physical form.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago (7 children)

I really hope it's the "Any" key. I have upwards of 40 ys of modal forms from which there is no escape because they demand I press any key to continue...

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[–] TwilightVulpine 44 points 6 months ago

Are we finally going to get the Any key?

[–] willis936 44 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

>see headline

"Oh cool. What fun and inventive thing is Microsoft doing?"

>reads first line of article

"Oh it's for AI. Gross."

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Another useless key? Use Scroll lock or SysRq for that. Or even better, reuse that stupid "menu" key. They'll cram one more key to the left of the spacebar and make ctrl, alt, and windows keys smaller. Or change their order.

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[–] jordanlund 35 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Just another key to make grandma ask "OK, what does this do?"

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[–] EvilLootbox 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I bought my first gaming keyboard like five years ago and thought the Windows Key Lock button was a Windows Store button for the longest time thinking it was the windows logo in a shopping bag

I'm an idiot

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