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For the first time in the United States, turbines are sending electricity to the grid from the sites of two large offshore wind farms.

The joint owners of the Vineyard Wind project, Avangrid and Copenhagen Infrastructure Partners, announced Wednesday the first electricity from one turbine at what will be a 62-turbine wind farm 15 miles (24 kilometers) off the coast of Massachusetts.

Five turbines are installed there. One turbine delivered about 5 megawatts of power to the Massachusetts grid just before midnight Wednesday. The other four are undergoing testing and should be operating early this year.

Danish wind energy developer Ørsted and the utility Eversource announced last month that their first turbine was sending electricity from what will be a 12-turbine wind farm, South Fork Wind, 35 miles (56 kilometers) east of Montauk Point, New York. Now, a total of five turbines have been installed there too.

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[–] Donjuanme 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anyone who says off shore wind power is ugly or an eyesore should visit some central (thousand oaks to San Luis) California Coast line, and see how majestic the off shore oil rigs are. And be sure to take your shoes off to enjoy the tar covered sands. (Some gasoline will take that right off, never you mind those warnings).

I'm all for these technologies.

-signed a college educated and ex field working marine biologist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Also, wind turbines look cool as shit. People are stupid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they look awesome. But they cost quite a bit more per kWh compared to land based ones.

[–] partial_accumen 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think they look awesome. But they cost quite a bit more per kWh compared to land based ones.

Agreed. Offshore wind costs as much as 3.5x the cost of the same wind on-shore in the USA. However, the expensive offshore wind is still cheaper than nuclear power.

  • on-shore wind $1,718
  • off-shore wind $4,833-6,041
  • nuclear $6,695-7,547

source

edit: corrected label

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Absolutely. Nuclear does have the benefit of being able to scale up and down fairly easily though. I don't recall if offshore + battery backup is cheaper or not. I know it is cheaper for onshore + battery vs nuclear.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nuclear does have the benefit of being able to scale up and down fairly easily though.

Can you expand on this?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure since it was poorly worded. It is good for baseload and being able to increase or decrease output based on demand. Wind can't do that without a battery.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 1 points 1 year ago

being able to increase or decrease output based on demand

Can you provide a source for this claim? My info is that this isn't accurate.

[–] Unyieldingly -3 points 1 year ago

Nuclear is dead.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the second bullet point supposed to be off-shore wind?

[–] partial_accumen 2 points 1 year ago

It was yes. Thanks for catching that. I've edited to correct it now.

[–] Unyieldingly 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

go to Texas Gas and Oil rigs for miles and miles.

[–] capital 1 points 1 year ago

Many abandoned and leaking. Left to the state (read: you and your tax dollars) to clean up because, oops! The company that owned them has gone under unfortunately.

[–] solrize 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Article says 1 turbine (5MW) from what will be a 62 turbine wind farm is sending power. The other farm will be 12 turbines (power per turbine not specified). If it's 5MW for each of 74 turbines, that's 370MW, not bad, but nowadays multi-GW solar installations are routine. I think there is currently around 1TW of solar deployed worldwide with 500+ GW/year coming online. Of course that's not baseline power but still, it's a much larger scale than this wind stuff, and many more TW are needed to displace fossil fuel.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

In fairness, it wasn't stated to be the maximum, just the amount delivered.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So, at the bottom it talks about an 800 megawatt wind farm that I think is the 62 turbine wind farm they're referring to. That's a peak of 12.9 megawatts per turbine.