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Bluesky posts are finally open to the public::Bluesky remains an invite-only decentralized Twitter alternative, but now, you don’t need to be logged in to be able to see posts on the platform. The app has a new logo, too.

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[–] [email protected] 170 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can tell that technology is advancing rapidly because now you can type short-form text on the internet and everybody can read it. Truly innovative stuff.

[–] crsu 18 points 6 months ago

I wonder if it'll catch on only to get destroyed by political operatives and bots

[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I got sent an invite ages ago. I've jumped in every so often but I am always shocked by how crap it is. Mastodon is so much better.

[–] stackPeek 30 points 6 months ago (3 children)

IKR? I'm disappointed that most of my favorite artists went there, instead of something like Mastodon

[–] crsu 34 points 6 months ago (4 children)

People like to pretend Mastodon is confusing

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children)

Mastodon is confusing mostly because it doesn't help you in any way, it just sits there and goes "you have no feeds". Well what am I supposed to do about that?

There doesn't seem to be a "discover" feature so you have to just magically know the usernames people already on the platform and then add them.

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[–] Plopp 26 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Pretend? I'm a computer nerd and I put off signing up for Mastodon for months because of how complicated it is. I completely understand why normies nope the hell off.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What people don't understand is that you're the algorithm on mastodon. You're doing the work.

I'm on it and it's actually my best experience on social media for a long long time. People are nice and discussions aren't toxic like on others. But, it comes with the cost to be the algorithm.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

More like people like to act smug and pretend it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I found it and Lemmy frustrating to get started tbh. Besides the flagship instances early on finding a server I could actually join was a lot of research and trial and error.

[–] Muyal 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As an amateur artist, mastodon is really not friendly to newcomers like me.

I had to figure out what an instance was and pick one (I chose mastodon.art since I was interested in that)

After wondering why I couldn't find other people's accounts, it turned out that I shouldn't have picked that instance because it had defederated from almost anyone else.

So now I had to create another account in another instance, which turned out to be so full my posts were not getting any traction.

With Bluesky I just created an account and I immediately gained a few followers

It is just not worth the hastle.

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[–] tigerjerusalem 9 points 6 months ago

I don't get the hate, I've been there for a year and the place is pretty cool with many writers and artists that aren't on Mastodon. It feels like twitter on the good days. Maybe if you curate your friend list better you would get a better timeline?

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[–] SomeGuy69 59 points 6 months ago (4 children)

They missed their chances. When I got the invite a few weeks ago, I did no longer care, because I already switched to Lemmy. There's no place for Bluesky anymore, they missed the Twitter exodus and the Reddit one. They should've send my code years ago but didn't. Such a fail of a company.

[–] ugjka 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I deleted my Bluesky account because no one who i invited used it. And bluesky invites are not even hot anymore, the last time i posted a bunch online no one grabbed them.

Mastodon and Lemmy fills my void enough i don't need extra places to go

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I only got on Bluesky a couple of months ago after a long wait, and honestly I don't think I've been on there once since setting up the account. A trickle of my Twitter contacts seemed to move over there in the early days but the trickle dried up and it doesn't look like many people are on there.

I hope it still finds a niche for itself, but the ridiculous invite rationing thing really does seem to have killed the momentum for them.

I've also lost interest in Mastodon, although again I'm willing to give it another go if it continues to grow. Mostly I've just found that I don't really need to replace Twitter in my life; I'm just fine without it...

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[–] ZeroDrek 36 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Can someone explain to me how Bluesky is different than Mastodon and if it’s not different why they bothered creating it when Mastodon exists? I truly don’t get it.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It’s likely that when Bluesky rolls out in full, advertisers will have the ability to place ads in networks or user interest groups similar to Reddit’s framework. This user self-selection will be extremely useful to businesses running targeted campaigns.

https://marketvantage.com/blog/what-does-bluesky-mean-for-advertising/

[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago (7 children)
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[–] nutsack 35 points 6 months ago (2 children)

less confusing to sign up and use, nice clean looking app, same look and feel as the OG twitter

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You could build all that on top of Mastodon too though. E.g mozilla.social uses Firefox accounts to sign in and the Elk theme.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mostly just the protocol. Mastodon uses ActivityPub. Bluesky uses some other shit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Atprotocol.

Mastodon and activitypub is very much like social media implemented in the form of public email lists implemented over HTTP (push massages between servers).

Bluesky uses content addressing (think magnet links for torrents, but for linking to post data) and pull mechanism with notifications, plus public shared archive nodes (CDN-like servers).

The main difference is that you're much more independent of individual servers and can easily move your account around, since your account ID is tied to a cryptographic key belonging to your account which you bring with you along with your post archive, and your handle can be based on a domain name you own (also works as a verification mechanism you don't have to pay extra for).

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[–] negativeyoda 33 points 6 months ago

I got my "early" invite code a couple weeks ago and it was pretty cool finding accounts I'd previously followed on Twitter... and seeing how they haven't posted in months

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (3 children)

its kind of crazy to me how many people are moving over to that place. on one hand i appreciate that it's somewhat containing twitter culture ~~protecting much better new socials like cohost~~ but on the other, it is frustrating to have no access to so many people who switched to blue sky's with its bizarre and abrubt popularity as an alternative platform despite being diet fediverse.

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[–] Jackthelad 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Now everyone can see how shit it is.

[–] Ghostalmedia 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] crsu 20 points 6 months ago

That's not a very high bar to exceed

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but note by "public" they really mean "if the post doesn't require you to login". They recently implemented a feature that lets users choose for their posts to be "public" but still require a login to see it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

The API is pretty much fully open, look up the firehose api for bluesky. This change just allows easy linking

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[–] chalupapocalypse 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Hope you like furries and dicks

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago

You have my attention

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

👀 Anybody got a Bluesky invite?

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[–] cheese_greater 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What do y'all think we can learn or adapt from Bluesky's protocol(s)/innovations?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

Invite codes for so instances dont have to be approval only it can be approval and invite

Subdomain based usernames instead of two @‘s like @nix.merv.news as my username so every OS doesnt think its an email when clicking. Plus its easier because I can just share nix.merv.news and people can just click it and go to it.

Being able to change your @ without losing your posts. Being able to keep your followers if your instance goes down

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why are people here, on this federated platform, excited for a centralized twitter clone that will eventually, inevitably, succumb to the same fate?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A billionaire proof social network run by a billionaire. Federated only with itself. Has a .xyz domain name.

I feel like I'm living in an episode of Silicon Valley.

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[–] obinice 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I wonder why they keep their platform so closed off. It'll never ever go anywhere if people can't even use it.

All it has to do is copy Twitter when it was good some years ago, and do it very reliably. That's it.

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[–] nutsack 12 points 6 months ago
[–] MaximilianKohler 11 points 6 months ago

First time I'm seeing what it looks like. Looks exactly like Twitter.

[–] crsu 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I got my invite and quickly deleted it when I found out that everyone there loved James Gunn and came at me for pointing out he can't be the flagship celeb to advertise the platform. My notifications blew up for days. It wasn't worth sticking around getting harassed when I'm not the bad person!

[–] chocolateo 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Deleted mine. Nothing ever happened then the big news was some guy from Lockheed Martin was being a sex pest towards women by getting them to pity him, starting to think bluesky doesn't attract the best people

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The public feed is 99% naked furries and you have to click their profile to see more naked furries to mute them. No thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


If you want to prevent people who aren’t logged in from seeing your posts, you can “discourage” that by clicking a toggle in settings.

But Bluesky notes that “other apps may not honor this request” and that the toggle doesn’t make your account private.

Previously, the app’s logo was a blue sky with clouds, but “early on, we noticed that people were organically using the butterfly emoji 🦋 to indicate their Bluesky handles,” Graber says in the blog post.

And, as spotted by my colleague Parker Ortolani, the app has a fun animation that will feel familiar to fans of Twitter.

With the increasing momentum behind ActivityPub — including the very public support from Meta’s Threads — I’ve worried that Bluesky, which is based on its own AT Protocol, might get left behind.

But every time I hop over to my Bluesky account, it seems like people are having a lot of fun — the platform seems to be growing quickly, too — so hopefully the protocols can co-exist and usher in a fediverse future.


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