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[–] Badeendje 120 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Most things you see a real professional doing.

Just look at the ease a window washer cleans a window stripless and fast, or a bricklayer just gets stones on the same height with 2 small taps on the brick consistently. Many more examples like that..

Years of experience and muscle memory make it look easy.. but it isnt.

[–] umulu 17 points 7 months ago (4 children)

And humans want to replace some of this shit with robots.

Window washer working on sky scrappers? Sure, I guess it is a job that can be done by robots.

Bricklayer? Why the fuck???

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't see why a robot can't lay bricks just as effectively or more than a human.

[–] Badeendje 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For one thing it is a tough, dirty, physically taxing job. If you can reduce the strain on humans and not wear them out as fast I'd call it a win..

[–] hydrospanner -2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Sure, but I'd imagine that Joe the Bricklayer may have a slightly different reaction when you tell him the exciting news that he doesn't have to lay bricks anymore because a robot can do it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's because something's wrong with our system. Joe the bricklayer has others things HE wants to do, but reaping the rewards for the businesses he helped build is in the cards for most.

[–] hydrospanner 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't disagree, but that bigger picture sentiment isn't keeping the lights on at Joe's house.

For the record: I am completely against the notion that we should stifle technical progress to preserve jobs and the status quo, but I just also feel it's something that we owe it to ourselves as a society to manage that issue alongside the progress so nobody gets left behind.

That's how we ended up with the solidly blue rust belt turning very purple over the past 50 years, and a state of coal miners like West Virginia becoming blood red.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

No doubt. People live and die in the hear and now. Its just frustrating how normal the idea that automating or making things more accessible means that it might ruins peoples lives. Like what a nutty notion, only made possible by the disconnect.

[–] umulu 4 points 7 months ago

But the thing is, we don't have to replace Joe with a robot. The hard part about being a bricklayer is having to make cement, carry that cement in buckets, carry concrete blocks, amongst other things that I don't even know (I watched my father in law working a few times). Why can't we just replace the "heavy" part with robots?

Let's use robots to our advantage, but keep people doing jobs they actually like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Tell that to all the seamstresses, or do you think we should go back to manually made textiles?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, stuff like underwater welding should be done by robots. Stuff like that is so unbelievably dangerous. I could see a lot of dangerous jobs getting swapped over to robots (bomb defusal, hotwork, chemical processing or oil rig repairs when the plant is shut down, etc).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

If bomb defusal isn't already being done remotely by drone then someone needs to be fired immediately

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bricklayer? Why the fuck???

Why the fuck not? The goal should be to automate all the jobs, so we humans can enjoy our time on this planet instead of spending it working.

[–] umulu 1 points 7 months ago

The goal is for us not to do jack shit, but to have nice lives, without having to spend most of the time working.

That is wrong thinking