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[–] PugJesus 83 points 7 months ago (7 children)

"Fortunately, we know many ways we can make the food system more resilient while reducing food emissions. The biggest opportunity in high-income nations is a reduction in meat consumption and exploration of more plants in our diets," said Dr. Paul Behrens, an associate professor of environmental change at Leiden University in the Netherlands.

Honestly, most people in the modern West eat more meat than is healthy anyway.

Turns out hunter-gatherers haven't evolved to eat meat every meal, three meals a day, all their lives.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (4 children)

You guys eating meat for breakfast or something?

[–] fluxion 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sausage, bacon, or ham are fairly standard

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I don't know why, but I was picturing meat in cereal. Bacon is life

[–] meleethecat 11 points 7 months ago

No one is stopping you from putting bacon in your cereal.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Bdya-bdya-bdya-That's gross folks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Cereal is more of a dessert in my books. I'm very much a savoury breakfast person.

[–] Blaster_M 9 points 7 months ago

Breakfast steak is the most important steak of the day

[–] SlopppyEngineer 6 points 7 months ago

That and bread, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

You guys eating breakfast?

[–] Son_of_dad 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm Latino and I've gone vegetarian, and to my father this is completely inconceivable. He's used to having meat every meal, and is convinced that I'm going to fall ill if I don't eat meat. I eat so many damn beans anyways that I'm good without it.

This whole eating meat every day, thing, seems pretty new right? Like industrial revolution forward. Most people in history weren't expecting meat all the time

[–] Dkarma 6 points 7 months ago

Only because they couldn't afford it...lol

Protein has always been the most desirable and most expensive part of any meal.

The fact that Americans eat so much meat is a testament to wealth not simply bad eating behavior.

[–] SlopppyEngineer 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's because the general population tried to imitate the rich when the standard of living increased, and the rich in general loved to hunt and eat lots of meat.

[–] afraid_of_zombies -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am not biting into a mouthwatering slab of beef to imitate the rich.

[–] stoly 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You missed the part in the comment about how it was your ancestors that started the trend.

[–] stoly 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. You should really be eating a lot of roots, nuts, leaves, and berries then occasionally catch something that can run from you.

[–] Son_of_dad 3 points 7 months ago

I'm a vegetarian but my wife calls me an opportunistic meat eater, like a horse. I don't eat meat, except when it's Christmas and my mom makes her turkey, or the one time a year I allow myself to have a big Mac.

I don't think my system could handle a steak, or pork anymore, it would probably destroy me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

to be fair they only had to work four to six hours a day so they needed less calories

[–] ad_on_is -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

eat more meat than is healthy

What is considered healthy in your opinion?

As someone who lost 40kg by just eating mostly meat (one year meat for lunch, salami for dinner), I'd argue it's healthier than the stuff that's advertised to be healthy.

wanna build muscle? well, eating pasta and salad every day won't get you very far.

Sure, there are other protein sources, but let's be honest, nothing is more nutritional, efficient (and delicious) than meat.

I think we should really focus on the truely unhealthy shit that's out there in the supermarkets, and not on meat.

[–] stoly 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You should study up on that vegan body builder, though I'm afraid that I don't recall his name. Remember that when you digest the meat, you are reducing back to its amino acids which your body can put back together into new proteins. The same thing happens when you digest plant matter--you reduce the plant proteins into amino acids which your body then puts back together into its own proteins.

[–] hark 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

While I'm sure it's possible, the fact that it's "that vegan body builder" instead of the norm should be a clue on how generally effective it is. Personally I don't eat a lot of meat, and of the meat I do eat, most is seafood, but I won't deny that meat is the easiest way to get the nutrients you need. It's also a lot more filling than carbs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was actually confused because there’s thousands of vegan body builders

[–] stoly 2 points 7 months ago

There's one dude who made a big youtube channel on the topic. Don't know if he's still around. His whole shtick was helping obese people get into shape by teaching them his diet and workout routines.

[–] ad_on_is 2 points 7 months ago

Sure, but there's the thing called PDCAAS, kind of a digestibility index for protein sources. in other words, how much of that protein can the body actually digest, the rest of it just gets pooped out.

And many plant based sources have a lower score, with a few exceptions.

Then, there's the cost factor too, best bang for the buck.

[–] afraid_of_zombies -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, most people in the modern West eat more meat than is healthy anyway.

Visit non-India Asia and get back to me. I don't know how anyone can be vegetarian there just as a general practice.

[–] Dkarma 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't 90% of street food in Asia just some random meat on a stick?

[–] afraid_of_zombies 2 points 7 months ago

In my experience yes. I can't describe the joy of the experience of being baked out of your mind buying way too much meat on a stick, going a stand over to get a thing of sticky rice in a bag, then the next stand a bubble tea, and finally devouring it on a random folding chair with a crate as a table.