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[–] gedaliyah 78 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Somebody once said that if you want to know how free society is, you only have to look at how they treat their prisoners. When prisoners have rights, that means everyone in the society can be free. When prisoners are stripped of basic human rights, that means anyone can be imprisoned with out a legal or moral recourse.

[–] FlyingSquid 62 points 5 months ago (3 children)

For anyone not aware:

While the United States represents about 4.2 percent of the world's population,[5] it houses around 20 percent of the world's prisoners.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_rate

How fucking insane is that?

[–] NeptuneOrbit 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Land of the free, home of the enslaved

[–] AngryCommieKender 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Land of the fee, home of the slave.

I cannot wait to see the headlines when someone sings that at some major league sporting event

[–] AngryCommieKender 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To give just a little more perspective, the nation with the second highest, in terms of reported numbers of prisoners, is China. We lock up more individual people than the largest country on earth by a factor of almost 8 when comparing the two nations total population to their prison population.

I guess US citizens are just the most criminal people on earth by a large factor..... /s

[–] homesweethomeMrL 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just to be clear, we all understand we're talking about one of the two major political parties here right. That has caused this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hard to pin the blame singularly on one when the other is complicit in the same system.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 1 points 5 months ago

It is not. Hard to pin it on them. You'll have to define "complicit" here. You mean unable to override a majority vote? Or not introducing reform legislation because we may as well flap our arms and fly to the moon?

Party of "law and order" (yeah right). Party of three strikes. Party of minimum sentencing. Party of the Federalist Society.

Hard to pin it on them? No. Not at all.

[–] gedaliyah 15 points 5 months ago

Yep.

For the "land of the free," we have one of the highest incarceration rates in the world. Singapore is at 156 (per 100k), Israel is at 168, Russia is at 300, Brazil is at 389, and USA is all the way up at 531.