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submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by MicroWave to c/news
 

More young workers are going into trades as disenchantment with the college track continues, and rising pay and new technologies shine up plumbing and electrical jobs

America needs more plumbers, and Gen Z is answering the call.

Long beset by a labor crunch, the skilled trades are newly appealing to the youngest cohort of American workers, many of whom are choosing to leave the college path. Rising pay and new technologies in fields from welding to machine tooling are giving trade professions a face-lift, helping them shed the image of being dirty, low-end work. Growing skepticism about the return on a college education, the cost of which has soared in recent decades, is adding to their shine. 

Enrollment in vocational training programs is surging as overall enrollment in community colleges and four-year institutions has fallen. The number of students enrolled in vocational-focused community colleges rose 16% last year to its highest level since the National Student Clearinghouse began tracking such data in 2018. The ranks of students studying construction trades rose 23% during that time, while those in programs covering HVAC and vehicle maintenance and repair increased 7%.

“It’s a really smart route for kids who want to find something and aren’t gung ho on going to college,” says Tanner Burgess, 20, who graduated from a nine-month welding program last fall.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I think it’s great that kids are finding ways to avoid debt traps but I worry when colleges become places only accessible to rich people. One of the best indicators for supporting Trump was lack of a college degree. I worry that the inability to be able to be educated just to become educated will lead to populations easier to seduce into facism

[–] Cosmonauticus 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly! In a more technology driven world full of false narratives and lies we need MORE ppl in college. Trade jobs shouldn't be considered lesser work but we should be more alarmed higher education is become unattainable for middle to lower class folks. Especially when k-12 schools are getting picked a part in general due to funding, burned out teachers, and bullshit "anti-woke" laws

MORE PPL IN TRADES ISNT A SOLUTION. ITS THE RICH FUCKING FUTURE GENERATIONS OUT OF HIGHER EDUCATION

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

More people in trades isn't a solution, it's a critical need. It was getting to the point there for a while where you couldn't find a qualified tradesperson to do HVAC/Plumbing/Electrical work who didn't have a 6 month backlog for love or money, and there were more specialized trades which very quietly were in danger of not having enough people to apprentice up the next generation. There's a correction there that needed to happen, and it's a good thing for everyone that it did.

[–] gAlienLifeform 6 points 7 months ago

We absolutely need more people with trade education, but we also need more people with well rounded liberal arts educations who are able to understand and interpret things like literature, history, statistics, and philosophical/logical arguments, people who are able to engage with sets of information outside of their professional expertise and separate cogent arguments from bullshit. Both of these things are essential to having a society of truly free citizens, but only the former has a tangible economic consequence under our system that will kick in with a clear enough cause and effect relationship to prompt policy changes like this. Without the latter we'll end up with a dumber and dumber society than can't talk to each other and ends up wasting all their energy yelling at each other on social media instead of organizing effectively for the world we deserve.

[–] stoly 4 points 7 months ago

The solution to this is to bring back paid apprenticeships, like what existed up until the early 1980s.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

where you couldn’t find a qualified tradesperson to do HVAC/Plumbing/Electrical work

Hire an apprentice. No excuses. Tired of whining from people how they can't find help. Been training interns for years. Give me anyone willing to work and follow instructions and I will find a use for them. Even if it is just fetching tools or holding a flashlight.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, I agree, but i'm on the consumer side of that interaction. And I'm a huge advocate for hiring interns and training people up from there, but the MBAs get stroppy about that.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 3 points 7 months ago

True that. They want freaken unicorns. Someone with all this knowledge and experience willing to work for near free.

[–] stoly 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

University attendance at these levels are also part of the Baby Boom. Prior to that, most people got by with a high school diploma. Bachelors were for the wealthy, a Masters put you at the highest levels of professionals, and a doctorate was something you did towards the end of your career in order to record all of the information and experience you gathered during your career. Now, some entry level positions REQUIRE a doctorate and the average person with a Bachelors earns what someone with a high school diploma earned in the 1970s.

The university was never intended to serve the masses.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 3 points 7 months ago

You are confusing origins with utility. Fraternities are believed to have been started as a way to keep students from too much partying and drinking, that has no relationship whatsoever with what they are now for example.

Just because higher education wasn't useful to most people in the freaken 1700s says nothing about today. If you want to decrease the wealth gap the best means is higher taxes and banning share buybacks not making everyone less educated in faith that the free market will correct.