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Count some numbers: Out of the US, Russia, China and India, how many millions of deaths of innocent civilians have each caused or significantly contributed to? I'm fairly sure the US tops that list by some ways.
You might want to read some history if you think that? Stalin, etc.
Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, we know the spiel. Anyway, the US were built on the genocide of indigenous people, have you conveniently forgotten about that? Do they not count because they don't belong to your ethnic group?
I would argue that Europeans are mostly to blame for the genocide of the indigenous people in the Americas. Or can we not blame Europe because that does not fit your narrative?
European people's hands are soiled with blood, but they don't harp as much about manifest destiny. And they haven't fought a civil war over the rights to treat people like poverty.
yeah, and the ussr is a totally relevant state in our days lol
The Russians seem to think that at least
greatly depends on what russians you as, even if you mean it ironically. USSR citizens is basically their equivalent of USA's sovereign citizens.
are we attributing deaths from lack of access to food, medicine, and shelter to the countries in which tehy occurred, or just active murder by the state? also, whatabout occupied territories: do we attribute deaths there to the military occupation?
however you do the math, america is bad, and abolition of the state is ideal.