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I've been seeing a lot of anti-voting sentiment going around. Can't believe I have to say this, but you need to vote. Not only is there more to the election than just the president. (State policy, Senate, house), but not voting is not an act of protest. C'mon guys

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

unless Democrats pass a law guaranteeing access to the medication.

Why would that hypothetical law (which won't get passed: see their promise to protect Roe v. Wade) not just get overturned by SCOTUS? They clearly play by their own rules.

If anything, your link to the Ivermectin case thing is further proof of that.

The fact is that a Democratic presidency and legislature can do nothing in the face of a Supreme Court that they still view as wielding discretionary power of them, and Democrats are too weak to play any sort of Constitutional Crisis hardball.

[–] QuaternionsRock 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Why would that hypothetical law (which won't get passed: see their promise to protect Roe v. Wade)…

I never said it was a guarantee, or even particularly likely, that such a law will be passed in the near future. Democrats don’t need to pass a law to protect abortion in blue states, while Republicans need to pass one to ban it.

I appreciate your attempt to turn this into a discussion about what a Democratic legislature would or wouldn’t do, but I am very clearly talking about what Republican legislature can and will do.

If anything, your link to the Ivermectin case thing is further proof of that.

Well, that currently has nothing to do with SCOTUS, so that tells me just about everything I need to know regarding how much thought you put into any of this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hey you're the one who still has faith in institutions in the year 2024.

[–] QuaternionsRock 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have faith that these institutions can do extremely horrible things and cause irreparable harm, yes. I also know for a fact (not “faith”) that the severity and extent of the damage will differ drastically depending on which party is behind the wheel. If you think that the two parties will have an identical effect, let’s return to the topic of a national abortion ban, shall we?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I think one party has fully grasped the ability to affect change regardless of who is in power in the other 2/3rds of the federal government, and the other party both does not differ drastically in their limited designs and also lacks the will to accomplish them, largely due to their reverence for institutions.

Support for abortion rights isn't even a hard and fast rule for Democrats. Part of the reason they failed to enshrine Roe was because the party is not unified on it. Very little has changed in that respect.