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plspls_pls_ stop calling each other fascists or astroturfers unless you have a thorough understanding of the uncommitted movement and what u.s. primaries are. there is so much blatant misunderstanding and misinfo going on it’s bad.

edit: if any loser dares call for an uncommitted vote in the general election? i will kick them in the balls (gender neutral) (in minecraft)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

To send a message in the primary, and avoid a Trump win in the general.

Is that not obvious?

[–] Daft_ish 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's an empty threat though. Unless it's not.

[–] Spaceballstheusername 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's no message being sent if there's no real threat behind the message or else the message isn't being received if the Biden administration doesn't change their stance.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seems like the message has made its way through the news and social media. Just because Biden hasn't changed his stance completely doesn't mean the message isn't being received.

[–] Spaceballstheusername 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The message is he'll lose the election if he doesn't change his stance. So if he has received it and chose to ignore it then why is he running. Either he doesn't believe the threat or he doesn't want to win.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The message is that he's pissed off a huge portion of his base, and they don't approve of what he's doing.

There's obviously more work to be done advocating for change. And it can be done under Biden, or under Trump. Which would you prefer?

[–] Spaceballstheusername 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No that's not the message, the message is if he doesn't listen to the people he won't win the election. It's a scary precedent to set that if the Democratic party doesn't listen to +70% of it's people and he still gets elected simply because the other side is worse when would they listen to their voters? The other side is always worse at least since I've been following politics(since Bill Clinton). They always use that to excuse their inaction because they think voters will be too afraid of the opposition to question it. This is a clear message and for the reason to stop a genocide. If now is not a time to take a stand idk when will be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No that's not the message

I mean, it pretty clearly is.

[–] Spaceballstheusername 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You believe what you want to then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I'll believe what people are actually saying, and what's actually happening.

I'd welcome you to join me in that!