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[–] [email protected] 241 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Largest prison population both in absolute size AND per capita. Also, random fact, their constitution allows prisoners to be forced into slave labour. Also, another random fact, their prisons are run for profit. None of these facts are related of course!

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Next you’re going to tell me that these for-profit prisons lobby the government for harsher prison sentences for things like cannabis possession.

[–] bighi 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only for people that are black or poor.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Not to nitpick but not ALL prisons in the US are for-profit. They should be illegal though.

Fun fact - other countries that have for-profit prisons include Australia, Canada, France, the UK, Israel, South Korea, and New Zealand.

This won’t do much since most of these prisons operate under state jurisdiction, but in 2021, President Joe Biden issued an executive order to stop the United States Department of Justice from renewing further contracts with private prisons.

[–] frickityfracktictac 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, however there are bs for-profit elements to even the non-for-profit prisons. Predatory costs to calling / commissary / etc. that still benefit companies when the US imprisons more people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. We need a prison reform.

[–] Speculater 9 points 1 year ago

Even "not for profit" prisons are lining millionaires pockets with infrastructure and maintenance contracts.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And house arrest is being used for mass incarceration of people being ACCUSED before conviction. The punishment can be more severe before conviction.

[–] nothingcorporate 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And many states let private companies charge accused people up to $40 a day for the ankle bracelets.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wtf Do they get it back if found not guilty? Do you have a source?

[–] PMmesexypajamas 5 points 1 year ago

Uhh...nope.

Also...about 25% of the people incarcerated in America aren't even convicted of a crime yet.

Even if they're found innocent, it's likely already cost them their job or made it so they are so far behind on bills from not working that it becomes next to impossible to climb out from under

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you also watch that Vice documentary?

[–] nothingcorporate 1 points 1 year ago

I did. That was a new angle to our prison industrial dystopia.

[–] Hypersapien 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Only about 8% of the US prison population is in for-profit prisons.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Listen I live in the USA, but if thats your best pushback to all those facts - should tell you what a dire state we are in. And prisons that aren't for profit still send out prisoners to for-profit industries to work, so it's kind of a moot point.

[–] Fedizen 6 points 1 year ago

california spending 100k+ per prisoner but renting them out for pennies is one of the insane unsustainable aspects of the system and then going and saying "we can't afford to let them out" is mind numbing.

The whole circus is just to keep wages down and arrest anybody folks don't want in their shitty suburb.

[–] Hypersapien 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm also in the US and I'm aware of all of this.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

And how many of these other prisons offer up their prisoners as extremely cheap labor to businesses that ARE for profit?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

That's still about 96,344 people. Which is nearly double the total prison population of Spain.