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If yes, where would you move to?

If no, why not?

I ask this as someone who has moved around a lot (5 states) for better working opportunities. I often hear people say they wish they could leave their current city/state/country, but money is often (understandably) an issue.

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[–] shadowSprite 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I dream of being in New Zealand or a Nordic country, but I'm a broke American loser who's too poor to even go visit those countries, and so they don't even want me there in the first place. I will keep dreaming, and die with my dreams unfulfilled. Maybe next life.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

@shadowSprite surreal to see this comment.

New Zealand is on one of its periodic kill the poor phases at the moment, the government has made massive cuts to welfare and intends to give retrospective tax cuts to landlords.

It's also scrapped all its environmental protections.

[–] shadowSprite 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

That's why I'd only go there if money wasn't an issue :) otherwise I'd rather be in a Nordic country. It's a shame to see countries look at the US and think we're something to emulate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

@shadowSprite in NZ's case we're emulating ourselves circa 1986.

Idk I'd rather be somewhere where they treat people well even if it doesn't affect me personally.

[–] slingstone 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well, crap. I really want to go somewhere far from the global conflicts that might arise in the future but still live in a relatively modern and developed country. New Zealand seemed like it would be a desirable destination, but if it's on the same trajectory as the US, UK, and Canada, I guess it wouldn't be an upgrade.

I really want to be as far from likely military (particularly nuclear) targets as possible. I feel like we're on the precipice of something truly awful.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

@slingstone I worry about that too. But NZ is unfortunately a 5 Eyes country and has a lot of oligarch/billionaire prepper bunkers in it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

New Zealand is very weird for an American. Its miles away from everything and the cities are tiny, of which there aren't many.

The culture seems to be quite grating for Americans. It's hard to get a lot of things and stores and such close early, doesnt fit well with American consumerism.

People are nice but not terribly friendly or social even in small towns. A lot of people do quiet activities like solo hiking.