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The IT ministry has reportedly decided to issue an order blocking end-to-end encrypted email service ProtonMail. According to a report in Hindustan Times, the government is planning to block the email service at the request of the Tamil Nadu police over a hoax bomb threat sent to at least thirteen private schools in Chennai on February 8. The report says that the decision to block ProtonMail was taken at a meeting of the 69A blocking committee on Wednesday (February 14).

A Proton spokesperson told the publication that the company has received the request from MeitY “a few days ago”. “We are currently working to resolve this situation and are investigating how we can best work together with the Indian authorities to do so. We understand the urgency of the situation and are completely clear that our services are not to be used for illegal purposes. We routinely remove users who are found to be doing so and are willing to cooperate wherever possible within international cooperation agreements,” the spokesperson said.

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[–] Stewbs 55 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Really amazes me how our government handles situations like these in the worst ways possible. Really hope the idiots at the top of the ladder get some braincells and see how stupid this whole debacle is

[–] Stewbs 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

The block order hasn't been initiated """yet""" but knowing the stance the Indian Government has on encryption as a whole, it's not much to go with.

Say the service does get blocked then the app will be available through F-Droid but the website will most likely be blocked by most ISPs. if any Indian user still wishes to continue using PM if a block order is initiated then they'll most likely have to use a VPN or a proxy server or through Tor. It'll also be possible to access the website if they use a different DNS.

I'm really hoping it doesn't end up being banned but seeing how the Indian government banned VLC a few years ago (unbanned it later on however) for the stupidest reasons possible.... Yeah it doesn't exactly induce much confidence....

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure that most people who are using Proton Mail are technologically savvy enough to bypass whatever half assed measure the government puts in place.

[–] Stewbs 6 points 6 months ago

I agree! But it's still an issue as there are quite a few proton mail users who just wish to achieve a tad bit more privacy and aren't tech savvy. I know some folks like that myself and tbh sometimes all the technical stuff or going through hoops can just be very daunting/overwhelming at times

[–] fastandcurious 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I personally don’t use proton mail, since I don’t really get any e-mails so I just never use any sort of mail app, but what are some easy ways to bypass this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

By using a VPN. Most have easy to follow guides on setting it up in your home router or mobile device.

I run all of my traffic over a VPN regardless to thwart my ISP from selling my data. Everyone should.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

the same thing happened when the indian government banned porn

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Stewbs 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Some Chinese hacker group called Cicada was using VLC to distribute malicious code and conduct cyberattacks. After this the website for VLC was blocked from February to November (I can't remember for how long so this timeline might be wrong).

At least that's what the reports says lol, the official reason was never revealed by the Indian Government which is just the cherry on top of this shit cake

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The idiots just made it easier for cicada because people could no longer download the original executable so were downloading it from shady sites where the likelihood of the executable being infected by malicious code is very high. Just like almost everywhere else, the officials here are morons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The Indian government will crack down on regular people using encryption, but they don't give a shit about the scammers based there.

[–] s38b35M5 1 points 6 months ago

Was going to say how they likely only meant they won't accept email from Proton, then I read the article. Hyper-react, India?

[–] akash_rawal 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They never will, we have to vote them out.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

And whom do we vote in. The congress and the others are full of idiots as well. Unfortunately no smart honest person will go into Indian politics because they know that between the beauracracy and the corruption, there is no way they make an useful change.

[–] akash_rawal 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't know either, but from what I know, bureaucracy and corruption is often a result of bad organizational structure. Some "designated officer" raises a finger which gets approved by the Secretary who is appointed by the minister who is appointed by the PM who is nominated by the Lok Sabha, and we lose yet another privacy protecting service. I think we should have more direct control in these matters.

For now, if we cannot expect a proper functioning web, they cannot expect stability under their seats. Vote them out.

[–] Stewbs 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Indeed and as the reply above you mentioned, whom do we vote? If there is a truly good party here, It's either too unknown or too small so I suppose we can just hope for the best

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'd vote for a purely retaliatory reason. So they know that the support they have isn't as ironclad as they'd assume. But I also have bailed from there so..... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Stewbs 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While it's true that voting for a purely retaliatory reason would be good but wouldn't you want your vote to have some amount of change? I'm not discrediting the integrity of the smaller parties but it really won't make much of a difference to vote for them even if it is towards a good cause simply because their size is too small to compete with the giants or even in state elections. Andhbhakts are everywhere unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

no smart honest person will go into ~~Indian~~ politics

[–] Buddahriffic 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's assuming the whole thing wasn't manufactured to create an excuse to ban encrypted emails.

[–] Stewbs 2 points 6 months ago

nah that thought crossed my mind too, I wouldn't be surprised if it was for that reason tbh

[–] angrymouse 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think you expect too much from Indian boomers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

But jio aldready blocks all the vpns right so i guess tor or other careers which i am guessing will follow in jio's way and i fucking switched to jio yesterday from airtel 🤦

[–] Stewbs 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

that sucks, I've never used Jio so I didn't know that. The ISP that I use doesn't really block VPNs so that's good I guess lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah i am gonna switch back asap any suggestion ?

[–] Stewbs 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Airtel or ACT Fibernet would be my suggestion

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I was using an airtel sim but saw a reddit thread about how much of your data airtel collects and switched. And now i am completely fucked by jio

[–] Stewbs 1 points 6 months ago

oh that sucks, I've never used either so I wouldn't know

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Wasn't my experience. My cell was Jio and so was the home internet, and ProtonVPN seemed to work just fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

You got a start protesting for your right buddy! This is the only way you can fight this oppressive governments! Be strong India!