I am shocked to see so many posts in Reddit and here mentioning Andy's post.

There are people creating posts with titles like Proton became MAGA, Andy endorsed Republican, and the like..

I am urging everyone, please take a step back and look at the whole story.

I really don't want people to be manipulated by reading only the titles of those posts and come into conclusion of what Proton is doing.

And please think this, "Proton Mail is the world’s largest secure email provider. Swiss, end-to-end encrypted, private, and free." what does the service has to do with politics?

Thank you

Just opening discussion, haha!

I mean if non-proton conversation isn't allowed, I'm just comparing, haha lol!

Okay seriously though.

The three services I'm exploring are:

• Email (with email aliases)
• VPN
• Cloud Storage

When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

Original post by u/Proton_Team on Reddit, reposting here so everyone is in the loop on updates.

Hi all, last night, a post from last year from my personal X account suddenly became a topic of discussion here on Reddit. I want to share a few thoughts on this to provide clarity to the community on what is Proton's policy on politics going forward.

First, while the X post was not intended to be a political statement, I can understand how it can be interpreted as such, and it therefore should not have been made. While we will not prohibit all employees from expressing personal political opinions publicly, it is something I will personally avoid in the future. I lean left on some issues, and right on other issues, but it doesn't serve our mission to publicly debate this. It should be obvious, but I will say that it is a false equivalence to say that agreeing with Republicans on one specific issue (antitrust enforcement to protect small companies) is equal to endorsing the entire Republican party platform.

Second, officially Proton must always be politically neutral, and while we may share facts and analysis, our policy going forward will be to share no opinions of a political nature. The line between facts, analysis, and opinions can be blurry at times, but we will seek to better clarify this over time through your feedback and input.

The exception to these rules is on the topics of privacy, security, and freedom. These are necessarily political topics, where influencing public policy to defend these values, often requires engaging politically.

The operations of Proton have always reflected our neutrality. For example, recently we refused pressure to deplatform both Palestinian student groups and Zionist student groups, not because we necessarily agreed with their views, but because we believe more strongly in their right to have their own views.

It is also a legal guarantee under Swiss law, which explicitly prohibits us from assisting foreign governments or agencies, and allows us no discretion to show favoritism as Swiss law and Swiss courts have the final say.

The promise we make is that no matter your politics, you will always be welcome at Proton (subject of course to adherence to our terms and conditions). When it comes to defending your right to privacy, Proton will show no favoritism or bias, and will unconditionally defend it irrespective of the opinions you may hold.

This is because both Proton as a company, and Proton as a community, is highly diverse, with people that hold a wide range of opinions and perspectives. It's important that we not lose sight of nuance. Agreeing/disagreeing with somebody on one point, rarely means you agree/disagree with them on every other point.

I would like to believe that as a community there is more that unites us than divides us, and that privacy and freedom are universal values that we can all agree upon. This continues to be the mission of the non-profit Proton Foundation, and we will strive to carry it out as neutrally as possible.

Going forward, I will be posting via u/andy1011000. Thank you for your feedback and inputs so far, and we look forward to continuing the conversation.

It is not Trump’s fault

It is tempting to blame all this on Trump, but that is taking the easy way out. All Trump does is put a new face on the existing privacy problem, so now it concerns a segment of the population that previously didn’t care as much. Proton Mail users have always come from both the left and right side of the political spectrum. Today, we are seeing an influx of liberal users, but Proton Mail has also long been popular with the political right, who were truly worried about big government spying, and the Obama administration having access to their communications. Now the tables have turned.

The same terror the political right has experienced is now being felt in liberal bubbles such as Silicon Valley for the first time. The left is correct to be terrified of a Trump-led NSA snooping on their communications, especially since Silicon Valley giants like Google and Facebook can be forced to spy on users on behalf of Trump’s NSA. However, this precedent was not set by Trump – he hasn’t even taken office yet. The first major incident of a US tech giant being complicit in US government spying actually took place in 2015 under the Obama administration(new window).

Can someone remind me about the terror campaigns we had against the political right before Trump was elected?

If I have photos backed up to Proton Drive, is there any good pipeline to search for a photo based on it's GPS meta data?

I hear rsync works with Proton Drive so, assuming it works for the photo backups, that may be a good starting point to get the photos locally so I can use other software.

I am on a quest to substitute my phone default apps with something more privacy and security oriented ones. One of such apps I plan to substitute is the "Contacts" one, and I see no Proton app exists solely for this purpose.

I know I can see my contacts details within the email app, but it seems not to be the way it should be, as it adds clicks for the contacts to be shown, where a single click on an specific contacts app is way more useable ant intuitive.

Are plans to make such app on the roadmap?

I just switched over from Gmail, but I find myself missing Google's default email filters for "promotions", "forums", "social" and the like.

What have you all done to replicate this?

I've just got a msg of unsupported browser when trying to log on Protonmail from Google Chrome.

Since Protonmail didn't send warning about Chrome recently, it still appears as working well browsers list from its hep page and Protonmail servers have been down 3 days ago, I'm guessing this may be a bug?

Anyone else getting this message?

Been down for a couple hours for me.

Regular user here. I just noticed that none of my browsers on multiple devices can pull up Proton services.

Basically I was cut out what appears to be a few minutes ago.

Anyone else experiencing this?

Can someone see my email, or metadata in the files if I publicly share the proton drive file?

https://drive.proton.me/urls/C27T4NBX80#JLS2ERN7Qs4L

I fully intended to buy Proton Unlimited during the black friday discounts, but wasn't anywhere with an internet connection and missed out. I need a VPN and a properly secure email service before January. Is it worth waiting to see if they post a christmas or new years deal or should I just do it and deal with it? I don't know if they've historically posted Christmas discounts or if it is just the Black Friday thing.

I use Proton Drive on Android, installed from the play store. I have >250gb of data with, I think, 10s of thousands of documents. For a few months navigating the file structure was crazy slow, almost 30 seconds for each folder I entered.

I deleted the app and reinstalled and now it's nearly instant for folders I use often.

If I dive deep into a folder tree that I haven't used in months, with a lot of files, it takes ~2 seconds per folder.

It's finally practical to make quick edits to docs using my phone!

How do you use your labels, folders and filters to organise your ProtonMail inbox/archive?

I decided to get Proton Unlimited yesterday and I've been trying to organise my emails, but I feel like I have the tendency to accidentally use folders and labels for the same thing so I end up with similarly named labels and folders (oops!), so I'm curious to see how people here organise their mailbox.

I was thinking one folder per alias/account/website, but when I try to add filters I'm reaching that filter limit where I have to wait 24 hours. I tried the sieve filters but, although I'm a decent programmer, it doesn't feel super intuitive.

I need to import from a non-supported 3rd party password manager. The ProtoPass JSON format looks the most promising, but I can't find details on the Id values. They appear to be some type of encoded hash or GUID, but I'm unfamiliar with how to generate them. I would appreciate any pointers on how to get the details. Thanks!

To get the JSON format for inspection, I created a dummy ProtoPass Vault with a variety of item types (Password, Identity, etc.) and then exported the vault. I can easily produce the JSON from my own password data, but the Ids are the only thing I'm uncertain about.

I also looked through the Proton Github repos, but found nothing... only a deadend to some backend notification call to "items::import", but I couldn't find way service or method that refers to.

I'm trying to automate the creation of Wireguard profiles to connect to various Proton VPN servers. As far as I can tell, when you generate one online through account.proton.me:

• The client generates a private key in-browser.
• Client POSTs the corresponding public key, along with the chosen server and some other parameters, to /api/vpn/v1/certificate.
• Server registers the given public key and returns the parameters that should be used to construct the config file.
• Client combines returned parameters with the private key to create the final config file.

I am attempting to replicate this process with a key generated using wg:

wg genkey | tee privkey.key | wg pubkey > pubkey.key

However when sending this pubkey to the server (leaving everything else exactly as captured from a working in-browser request), it responds with:

{
  "Code": 2001,
  "Error": "Unable to read the key, please provide a valid EC key",
  "Details": {}
}

Replacing my custom pubkey with a pre-existing pubkey from a config generated through the Web UI instead returns ClientPublicKey fingerprint conflict, please regenerate a new key, so I don't think I'm messing up the request format.

My questions are:

• Is there a better/more official way to do this? I couldn't find anything searching.
• Why does this not work? Surely wg creates valid EC keys? Does Proton have some additional constraints on valid keys for some reason?

I don't have much (or really any) experience with WireGuard, so perhaps I'm missing something obvious? Any help would be appreciated.

@[email protected] is an unofficial or fake account??? The official verified account is @[email protected] !! #ProtonDrive #ProtonVPN #ProtonCalendar