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Lemmy users lack nuace and it stops actual discussion. (self.unpopularopinion)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by RedAggroBest to c/unpopularopinion

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I seriously cannot have any degree of nuanced conversation here.

Like I get it, we all know capitalism is bad, but it feels like every time I or anyone go towards discussing the steps that need to be taken to address current looming problems in the short term, someone has to jump in and shut it down with "capitalism bad >:[ " and tear down any idea presented because its not complete and total destruction of the current economic model.

The result just feels like an echo chamber where no actual solutions get presented other than someone posting whole ass dissertations on their 33-step (where 30/33 steps are about as vague as "we'll just handle it") plan to fully convert the world to an anarchist commune.

Edit: I still vastly prefer Lemmy and the fediverse and a whole, my complaint here is that many of you are TOO INTENSE. You blow up small scale discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I was really hoping we'd leave that behind when we stopped totalling them up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Both the web interface and various apps still have the functionality in place (though I think the individual user can disable it). I think that since a lot of Lemmy users are reddit refugees, the mentality carried over unfortunately. That said, hiveminds and echo chambers are kind of human nature, so it's pretty hard to escape; ultimately it's on the individual to either fall in line or ignore it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The web ui shows your total karma?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah maybe not total but separated, still though, simple math. I'm on Voyager more than my desktop so I don't really see the web UI very often.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

simple math

Go ahead and try to add up my my comment karma lol.

ETA: if your app shows an aggregate this is because it wasn't removed from the API. This is an oversight as noted on the github.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Karma is removed in 0.19, curious where you still see it. Anyway its impossible to calculate correctly for remote users, because there is no guarantee that the local instance has fetched all posts from that user, and all votes on those posts.

[–] MrJameGumb 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Boost for Lemmy app still gives you your total "karma" score for some reason

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It was removed from the web ui but was still left in the API.

dessalines:

Public karma counts and karma farming are one of the things we really don't want to replicate from reddit, there was a discussion about it for lemmy-ui, and it was decided to stop showing them because of how psychologically harmful it is.

We should've removed these a long time ago from the API. As a substitute, you can show the post_count and comment_count instead of those scores.

[–] MrJameGumb 2 points 10 months ago

I honestly forget it's there most of the time as I don't typically look up my own profile lol