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[–] gAlienLifeform 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it would have been a completely horrifying and infuriating way to die, especially for the pilots who probably had a pretty good idea of what was happening but just never got told how to deal with it

Also, it just blows me away that the corporation as a whole got charged with felony fraud, fraud which caused the deaths of hundreds of people, and they still just get to be a company after saying sorry and paying a little fine. When Fuckup Beauregard III decides to rob his local gas station with an unloaded gun and the clerk dies of a heart attack (or when his accomplice Cletus gets shot and killed by a responding police officer), the felony murder rule will kick in for him and say "someone dying as a result of your felonious behavior is legally equivalent to you intentionally murdering them," but that sort of thing just doesn't ever happen to rich and powerful people.

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is why I refuse to fly. Just scandal and improper training and maintenance. It's fucking dangerous.

[–] MotoAsh 35 points 8 months ago

It's not yet more dangerous than most other modes of travel.

It's just more dangerous than it needs to be thanks to capitalist "innovation".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know a (retired) guy who used to be an engineer designing commercial airliners. He, too, categorically refused to fly.

Makes ya think.

[–] MotoAsh 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Part of it could just be the survivability. A lot of people get REALLY turned off of ideas if the result can be terrible death, even to the point of having something like a phobia of risk in general. Like some won't ride a motorcycle even if it's just down the street once.

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Maybe it's a phobia for me. I know, statistically, it's the safest way to travel. But I hate having no control over my fate. Plane improperly maintained causes the flight I'm on to crash into the mountains? No thanks. I know it's extremely irrational but it is still terrifying to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

But people die every day in cars due to somebody else’s actions and/or poor maintenance.

Place crashes are very memorable and flashy though.

[–] MotoAsh 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree. The situation is already dangerous enough without those in charge cutting corners for profit...

[–] Cold_Brew_Enema 0 points 8 months ago
[–] Shapillon 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it technically be a phobia of danger rather than risk?

[–] MotoAsh 2 points 8 months ago

No idea. They're related words, but I would say it should be the more generic term. Danger to my mind implies a specific thing. Like spinning blades that you could accidentally touch, or a driver not watching the road. Danger is exposure to a specific risk, so it's just a matter of opinion on how "dangerous" something like a plane is beyond the stats.

and the stats say it's highly safe. You just might have a terrible end you'll see coming if you lose the lottery.