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West Bank videos show Israeli troops killing teenager and driving over man’s body
(www.theguardian.com)
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Well for me personally, I get to tell Biden what to do because hes supposed to represent me. If I lived in Isreal I'd probably be yelling about Bibi and wouldn't say anything about Biden. I have no power, not even theoretical, over Bibi.
Criticizing Biden is fine. There's more nuance to what I'm saying than that. The phrase "genocide joe" illustrates it perfectly for me. A weird trump-style nickname that is supposed to pin the whole thing on him. He should act very differently, but that doesn't make it entirely a Biden thing.
Fwiw I try to not say that phrase myself anymore and instead if I bring it up ill say financier of genocide, because thats more direct, less charged and not nearly as debatable as the other one, So I'm not gonna argue against distaste for the nickname, but personally I'm neutral to it which could be why I end up on the 'other side' of some of these discussions. I guess I just feel like some people need to hear that, but I also recognize that not everyone is going to take it with enough nuance for it to be good.
I appreciate this response. Thank you for being a nuanced human.
Anytime and same to you.
0.004% of all Palestinians are dead. Daily death tolls trending downward.
Shouldn't more people be dying each day, if it's genocide? They've still got 99.996% of the way to go!
I'm sure you think so.
No not really I don't think anyone should be dying.
Ignore this person. They claim they have no power over Netanyahu, but want Biden to change his stance on Israel. Why? Because it will influence Netanyahu!
They are either someone who doesn't understand their own motivations or a troll. Neither one is worth arguing with.
There's a concept called power mapping which can inform you on where you should put your attention if you want to effect change. For Americans without Israeli citizenship, they will get nowhere asking Bibi to stop, that time is wasted. If I had all the time in the world yeah I'd yell about everyone. But I don't, so to be effective I have to focus on what I can change, thats Biden.
In what fucking universe is criticizing genocide joe fine with you xD you spent a bunch of time the other day letting me and others know we're worse than trump voters bc we don't like biden and might vote for someone else, pretending you weren't is just gonna make you look even more flip floppy than your average Democrat
Remember, you voted for genocide, you're voting for more genocide, and you think I'm a Nazi for not wanting to vote for genocide