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West Bank videos show Israeli troops killing teenager and driving over man’s body
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 11 Jan 2024
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Every single US president has been a vocal ally of Israel. Joe Biden is literally doing nothing different than any of his predecessors including Trump.
And now they're committing genocide. The situation has changed.
And now they’re committing genocide more quickly than before. FTFY.
It's become undeniable that this is genocide. We should cease support.
Yes 0.004% of the population of all Palestinians are dead.
You understand genocide means wiping out a population, right?
Is it the most incompetent genocide ever?
Please explain: surely Israel has the weaponry and capability right now to destroy every structure in Gaza City in about twenty minutes, why aren't they?
If it's genocide, why are the daily death tolls trending downward? They should be going up, if it's genocide, they still have 99.996% of the way to go.
You're really going to say it's not a genocide because it's not done yet?
Disgusting.
No, I'm saying it hasn't started.
Not much has changed about the intent and none of you were screaming about the innocent Palestinians killed before things escalated.
Regardless, if y'all fuck around and elect Trump under the guide of myopic "principles", you'll see a lot more Palestinian children killed in the headlines. Somehow it will be democrats' fault, you'll scream. If nothing else you will claim they didn't "earn your vote."
A racist immoral dictator will have control of your country and the one thing you could've done was refused. But of course no one will be able to blame you without some weird justification coming out of your mouth, because you have "principles"
You can't defend Biden's support for Netanyahu's genocide, so you accuse anyone who disagrees with it of wanting Trump to win.
I thought you said you wouldn't reply to me again.
I can't keep track of those of you who don't care what your actions result in. Unfortunately there are a lot of you, which is precisely my concern.
I'm voting for Biden. He should stop supporting genocide.
So should you.
Ok then what are we even disagreeing on here? I have only stated that it's destructive to vote against Biden. Perhaps that gets lost in threads sometimes but I thought I was clear about that in contexts where it hadn't been established..
I said Biden should stop supporting genocide. This greatly upset you and you started slinging accusations that I want trump to win.
I want Biden to stop supporting genocide. This clearly bothers you.
Because and only because you support genocide for its own sake like all centrists. You're getting everything you always wanted in Gaza and don't want it to stop.
If you think this is in any way unfounded or unfair, deal with it. You immediately assume the worst about anyone with valid criticism of Biden, so you're getting the same courtesy.
Biden should not be supporting genocide.
Neither should you.
You clearly cannot comprehend basic English as the above poster has indicated they plan to vote Biden
Many centrist Democrats see criticism of any Democrat and immediately snap to "how can I dismiss this person without addressing what they're saying?"
This one has chosen "you must be part of an international conspiracy." Other classics include "I will state without evidence that you are younger than me and are therefore wrong" and "Your criticism from the left means you are all the way to my right."
Centrists are happy to jettison any policy except support for genocide, and they don't want to examine why that is too closely, so they become hostile instead.
Republicans are fascist shit on their best day ever, and like I've said many times and you've ignored every time, I do not support them.
You have consistently refused to even call what Netanyahu is doing a genocide. You're now following me around and calling me a russian because the alternative involves reexamining your positions.
I was hoping that reddit stalkers were unique to reddit.
You're fucking with me, right?
You're demanding that I say something bad about Republicans in response to a comment in which I call them fascist shit on their best day ever.
So are you just gonna fling baseless accusations at me every few days from now on?
Go away. I have no wish to defend myself against someone who goes to every thread to defend third party voters
You can't imagine opposing genocide.
Reagan made Israel stop bombing Lebanon. He just said "but you're doing a holocaust" and they stopped.
Pro-genocide centrists really hate hearing that Biden is to the right of Ronald Reagan on the issue of genocide.
I mean, they love that he is to the right of Reagan on this. They just don't like hearing it.
It's so fucking pathetic how Biden wants Bibi to respect him and Bibi's whole electoral strategy is "fuck the democrats". It's the most cuck shit.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bibi is cranking up the overtness of the genocide because he knows it'll hurt Biden but Biden is mentally incapable of telling Bibi to stop.
He's going so far as to bypass Congress to give them more weapons. Reagan handled the 1982 war better, fucking Reagan.