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[–] Veedem 154 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Dallas County Sheriff Adam Infante said that school had not yet started when the shooting began.

“Luckily, so there were very few students and faculty in the building, which I think contributed to a good outcome in that sense,” he said at a news briefing.

Maybe it’s a bad selected quote but using the phrase “good outcome” because only 3 people were shot in a school is insane, to me.

[–] AbidanYre 95 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

This one won't even make the cut as a mass shooting because not enough people were injured.

Way to go America.

Update: five injured, one killed. It counts as a mass shooting now.

[–] ThePantser 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Which is why we need to track school shootings in it's own category.

[–] AbidanYre 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Then people will complain that an accidental discharge in the school parking lot gets lumped in with this, or that mass shootings at schools get double counted because they're mass shootings and school shootings, or some other nonsense to avoid admitting that there's a problem.

[–] FlyingSquid 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I really don't understand their "gang killings don't count as mass killings" argument. Like somehow those are different because gangs?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The consensus is that people don’t care about gang members when it’s inter-gang violence. Aside from the obvious, the biggest issue with that stance is that more often than not it’s some 6 yr old bystander who’s shot through the wall of their house. Disgusting.

*edit fixed autocorrect

[–] meco03211 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like gang shootings would be a little more adversarial. Basically two groups with animosity towards the other coming to a head and the aggressor could be from either side. School shootings and other mass shootings are more vengeful and one sided.

That's my take at least. Not that the loss of life isn't tragic all the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Basically two groups with animosity towards the other coming to a head and the aggressor could be from either side.

Any time a group of cops shoot at someone it should probably count as a gang shooting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I'm generally very anti-gun, but I can see the rationale behind separating gang killings. Just like separating out familicide from mass shootings where a person shoots their three kids, their wife, then themself. Not a mass shooting in the sense that the general public was at risk of being a target.

[–] HipHoboHarold 2 points 10 months ago

I kind of get it. Like we were focusing on the shootings where someone goes to a school, a mall, concert, etc, and just starts killing people. It's still a shooting, and people still die, and it is unnecessary violence, but it's still different. Similar to how if I, a white guy, kill a black man, it's just murder... until I do it while screaming the n word. Now suddenly its different.

It also feels a little convenient in the aspect that people were pointing out how many of the mass shootings were done by white people... So then they add in gang shootings. Now more of them are done by other races.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Mission accomplished!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Killed you mean, you could have 400 injured, it's not a mass shooting if there is less than four death.

[–] AbidanYre 6 points 10 months ago

Four deaths would make it a mass killing. People being hit with bullets fired from a gun is a shooting even if they don't die.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 4 points 10 months ago

Wait until the government redefines the number high so the rates will go down.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That noob never even went to a firing range to properly train to shoot kids. An embarrassment for the nation, really.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah, but also when you do that you got to get the smaller targets all set up and people always want to small talk about what school you are shooting and why, and someone always ends up bringing up Jews...

I can see why you wouldn't even bother going to the range to practice anymore. Such a hassle.

[–] PoliticalAgitator 1 points 10 months ago

It's a "good outcome" for the pro-gun community because it's a small school shooting that should be easy to sneak under the rug.

It's obviously a horrific outcome for the victims, students, their families and their teachers, but who gives a fuck about them? The killers dad was the only one profitable to the gun lobby and a font of power for Republicans.

[–] Treczoks 1 points 10 months ago

So now it is a "good outcome" if only a few kids get shot. Can America sink even lower? Just watch the daily series "School Shootings", Mo-Fr in your news channel!