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[–] [email protected] 228 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

For context, original lyrics:

Don't wanna be an American idiot
Don't want a nation under the new media
And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
The subliminal mind fuck America

Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alienation
Where everything isn't meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones who're meant to follow
For that's enough to argue

Well maybe I'm the removed America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
Now everybody do the propaganda
And sing along to the age of paranoia

Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alienation
Where everything isn't meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones who're meant to follow
For that's enough to argue

Don't want to be an American idiot
One nation controlled by the media
Information age of hysteria
It's calling out to idiot America

Welcome to a new kind of tension
All across the alienation
Where everything isn't meant to be okay
Television dreams of tomorrow
We're not the ones who're meant to follow
For that's enough to argue

Super tame.

In the New Year's show, they changed "a redneck agenda" to "the MAGA agenda". Okay, little bit more explicitly partisan, but basically the same thing.

[–] pyromaster55 147 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And yet, as a leftist redneck, I whole heartedly approve of the change.

Feel a little more seen, even if it doesn't mean anything.

[–] ZoopZeZoop 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've known many rednecks who were good people. If you aren't hurting people, you do you, friend! Also, chunk those punkins!

[–] chrishazfun 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, rednecks (chavs and bogans too) are at worst just really callous, well intentioned and imo would rather consider their opinion on something and try to make conversation to understand than someone intentionally aligning themselves with people who're literally using some Austrian with a shitty staches manual.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Don't talk shit about the chaplin stache.

[–] TropicalDingdong 127 points 11 months ago (2 children)

“a redneck agenda” to “the MAGA agenda”

If MAGA as a name for these people had existed then, they would have used it. They're the same people.

[–] somethingsnappy 13 points 11 months ago

Hashtagnotallrednecks.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I think part of the problem (aside from people that don't ever listen to the words in songs) is less that the song/green day is apolitical in their interpretation, but more that for a lot of people the word "politics" means partisan politics. Being explicitly about a party or one of their core issues is what makes something 𝓅𝑜𝓁𝒾𝓉𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓁 to them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

What is and is not political is defined by oppressors. Their crosses, punisher skulls, and blue lives matter stickers are not political. The atheist symbol, antifa arrows, and black lives matter stickers are political. A keffiyeh is a political statement, but an IDF shirt isn't. "Political" functionally means "talking about your oppression or the oppression of others."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

JSYK, using special characters to write “political” like that doesn’t work with screen readers. Best case scenario it skips the word entirely, worst case it reads out the name of each special character individually.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah. It’s fucking sad.

[–] tdawg 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's tame by today's standards but at the time it got quite a few people in a tizzy

[–] captainlezbian 6 points 11 months ago

Yeah it was before bush was re-elected during the age of prime jingoism

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Well that change in lyrics certainly got the point across. 😂

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Was f##got broadcast uncensored over the air?

[–] JJROKCZ 3 points 11 months ago
[–] Mango 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hmm?

Referring to:

Well maybe I'm the [expletive] America

What were you asking about MSI? “Indulgence”, not ”Influence”, as I remember :)

[–] Mango 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah sorry typo. Not sure what you're saying though.