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The court ruled that the lower court made a mistake in ruling that the woman, Kate Cox, who is more than 20 weeks pregnant, was entitled to a medical exception.

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Ms. Cox asked the lower court for approval after she learned that her fetus had a fatal condition, and after several trips to the emergency room.

In short, the life or health exemptions to abortion bans in Republican-controlled states are meaningless.

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[–] FlyingSquid 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The idea that a woman has to prove to legal satisfaction that she was raped in order to get an abortion is so fucking sickening. There shouldn't be the same standard for a raped woman to get an abortion than there is to convict her rapist.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

While I think its sickening, they need some way to at least prove it happened to legal satisfaction. Not the same standard I agree.

If all you had to do was claim rape and invent an imaginary situation the police would never figure out (e.g masked rapist in a no camera area of town when no one was around) then every woman could just claim rape to get an abortion.

Filing a false police report probably has consequences but worse than having an unwanted child?

Although I'm not saying a conviction is needed here, but some sort of medical agreement that rape was likely, however they determine that now with rape kits.

This whole thing is maddening though. They should be able to get an abortion if they want one end of story.

Edit: for anyone who wants to or has downvoted me here, please do tell me how we can ban abortions and have an exception for rape, but not have a way of verifying a rape without allowing 100% of woman to claim rape for 100% of abortions. This shitty situation is reality, and you can't just disagree and say they should be allowed an abortion because they want one. That's not a valid answer to our current situation as shitty as it is.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Edit: for anyone who wants to or has downvoted me here, please do tell me how we can ban abortions and have an exception for rape

The answer here is simple: I reject the premise of the question. Banning abortion but having an exception for rape is morally disingenuous. You can't say "abortion is murder some of the time."

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If that's your stance that's fair, I made an assumption that the downvotes were from people upset that I was explaining why they can't just allow a rape claim without some confirmation a rape actually happened.

Edit: I was just explaining the situation, though.

Edit: also thanks, I appreciate the answer.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If all you had to do was claim rape and invent an imaginary situation the police would never figure out (e.g masked rapist in a no camera area of town when no one was around) then every woman could just claim rape to get an abortion.

What's wrong with that?

They should be able to get an abortion if they want one

Which is exactly why there's nothing wrong with women lying about being raped. You shouldn't have to have been raped to get an abortion in the first place and I'd be lying my ass off about it if I needed an abortion.

"Yes officer I didn't see any defining features he wore a mask and didn't speak he also put a bag over my head and put a blindfold on me"

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Sadly that just won't fly. It sucks, but you're being delusional if you think a state with an abortion ban would accept such a glaring loophole in their laws.

Edit: 100% unrelated but I seem to be getting delayed notifications that I even have a reply to a message? Am I the only one experiencing that?

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh I know it won't I'm just saying that's exactly what I would say before nopeing the fuck outta state permanently.

As for the notification thing idk what app your using but it's normal on jerboa. You can just check your notifications manually and it'll be there before the actual notification

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 2 points 7 months ago

I like to think I would have noped out of the state permanently well before I got pregnant.

I'm using sync, the inbox will show no new messages even when I refresh it, and then 5 min later show one that's 20 minutes old. I haven't dug into it further though like comparing to the web.