this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2023
492 points (97.9% liked)

196

16423 readers
2828 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paradox doesn't mean there is no answer, it means the answer is unintuitive. Part of the paradox of tolerance is the given answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, a paradox is an intrinsic contradiction.

There's no resolving it without redefining the terms - if you traveled back in time, you broke causality, meaning time was never what we think of it as. If you spawn a new timeline, you never created a paradox - the apparent contradiction is from an alternate timeline.

But in this case, there never was a paradox - people made one up by misunderstanding tolerance for universal acceptance. That's never what it meant - South Park even did an episode about it when the term was pretty new.

It doesn't mean you like them or support their choices, it means you treat them with common decency according to the social contact. You can be a bigot deep in your heart, but you don't make it their problem.

It's about That's all it is, it's about "your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins". And conversely, if a bigot acts acceptably and they keep that between them and their priest, you tolerate them.

Ideally, you wouldn't be prejudiced against them... I'm sure plenty of Nazis were decent people. Like Russians today - some support a horrible and unjustified war, because propaganda works. Many genuinely believe they're liberators paying an enormous price for the freedom of Ukrainians. Show them the concentration camps from then or the war crime videos today, and they'd be instant converts the minute they're convinced they start to accept they've been lied to

But you still stop them. They're still wrong, and need correction, because they're hurting others no matter what they believe.

You don't let chistofacists abuse their children, and you don't let klan members or fascist organize - you respond with counter-organization to their organization, you mock them for being a fucking idiot/asshole when they post dumb shit online, you argue them calmly when they push stupid beliefs respectfully and in good faith, and you respond with overwhelming violence to imminent harm.

It's not a philosophy, law, religion, or ethics framework... It's just the explicit form of the basic social contact for people who struggle to keep their prejudice in check

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

That's the given answer to the paradox.