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Ohio voters just took firm positions on abortion and reproductive rights and adult-use recreational marijuana Tuesday, but gerrymandered Ohio lawmakers are already planning to flout, ignore, challenge, and abuse the voters’ wishes. This is what gerrymandering brings. This is why it’s a fundamental poison in the lifeblood of our republic.

Mere hours after Ohio voters passed the Issue 1 reproductive rights amendment with 56.62%, according to unofficial results, and the Issue 2 recreational marijuana law with 57% (both getting nearly 2.2 million votes), Ohio Republican legislative leaders signaled they would not respect the will of the people.

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[–] Salamendacious 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Only if we let them. We all gotta vote or they'll fascism all over the place.

[–] snekerpimp 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m getting genuinely nervous that voting is not going to stop this one. With them lying and switching parties after being voted in, to the judicial system being completely corrupt and stacked, our window is closing fast. It needs to be legal to punch fascist in the face. Intolerance cannot be tolerated.

[–] Salamendacious 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want you to feel like it's inevitable that they'll win. It isn't!

[–] snekerpimp 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I feel it’s inevitable that I will be in the middle of a civil war to forcibly push these fascist from our government. I will vote until I have to enact my second amendment rights.

[–] Salamendacious 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can respect that. Let's hope it doesn't come to that. Jan 6th has proven they'll go to extremes to win. My big hope is that the maga movement gets crushed next year and the Republicans turn on each other. My fear is that Republicans will coalesce and the contentious coalition of Democrats, liberals, progressives, etc. will fracture. At least one moron is going to say, "I'm not voting for Biden because X I'm voting for Jill stein instead" and that'll make it one vote easier for Trump to take control and run the DOJ like some comic book crime lord.

[–] snekerpimp 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

January 6th was never meant to succeed. It was just a litmus test. See how the public and the judicial system would handle the prospect of insurrection. The next time it happens, the loop holes found will be exploited, and there will be no going back.

[–] Salamendacious 1 points 1 year ago

I think it was serious, just poorly planned. I think we're pretty much on the same page here though. I definitely think that there will be a next time.

[–] CheeseNoodle 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't this literally a post about how people voted and its going to be ignored anyway?

[–] Viking_Hippie 5 points 1 year ago

Yep, it is. That's a nuance lost on the party soldiers itt though..

[–] agent_flounder 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't stop at voting. Volunteer to encourage others to vote. Get more involved in local politics. Run for local office.

[–] Salamendacious 7 points 1 year ago

I don't not have the time to run but I know my city council woman and I've had her sign in my yard twice now. As well as the school board members. They all won reelection this past Tuesday too. I've been thinking about becoming a precinct captain but I'm already kind of stretched thin.

[–] Viking_Hippie 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Salamendacious 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Your options are vote or give up and let them do whatever they want. You can be apathetic if you want but I'm not giving up.

[–] angrystego 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These are not the only options. If the representatives don't respect results of democratic vote, organize and go to the streets, protest, don't let them think you don't care!

[–] Salamendacious 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Protesting without voting is just taking a loud walk. It's easy for politicians to ignore you if you don't ever show up at the polls. That would be like a bunch of people protesting outside a McDonald's because the food is unhealthy and then eating at that McDonald's for their lunch break. Definitely protest but back that protesting up with voting.

[–] angrystego 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, I never meant protesting without voting. In this case people DID vote. But their decision is being ignored. I don't think the reasonable thing to do in such case is to wait peacefully for another election!

[–] Salamendacious 3 points 1 year ago

I must have misunderstood. I apologize

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Protesting without voting is just taking a loud walk.

My dawg WE DID VOTE. I VOTED. I VOTED FOR BOTH OF THE ISSUES IN THIS POST AND THE PARTY IN POWER IS STILL SAYING FUCK YOU.

Sorry for the all caps but like, c'mon guy, do you think people aren't voting? We fucking voted! We did it! We did the thing people have always told us to do and the Republicans are still getting their way! Just voting isn't cutting it anymore! Stop telling people just to vote, and stop belitting other valid forms that the voting populace can use to enact change!

[–] Salamendacious 2 points 1 year ago

People vote once and a while. In the 2020 presidential election voter turn out spiked. The 2022 midterm though? 46%

You want to protest? Go for it.

You want to scream in all caps? Go for it

You want to say "fuck the fascists" or talk about what you'll do to them? Go for it

Do whatever you want. As long as one of the things you do is vote.

[–] Viking_Hippie 1 points 1 year ago (11 children)

It's easy for politicians to ignore you if you don't ever show up at the polls.

It's much easier if you ONLY show the at the polls and only for them no matter what.

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