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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, almost like this has being going on for 50+ years

[–] moistclump 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I thought it was, like, thousands.

[–] Terminus 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope. Zionism only truly started to gain traction at the end of the 19th century and Israel only really began to take shape after the Balfour Declaration in 1917. Prior to this, Palestine was the territory of the Ottoman Empire, and before that it was (for the most part) the territory of various Islamic Caliphates.

The modern conflict we see today can be traced back to the Palestine War (1947-1949) and its aftermath. So yeah, 50+ years is pretty accurate. Saying it's been going on for thousands of years is a common misconception. Some people try to perpetuate that misconception in bad faith to conceal the fact that this whole thing started because colonial powers stuck their business into a situation where it didn't belong.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what I understand, Jews and Muslims were peacefully coexisting in the region before colonial powers decided to set up Israel following WWII. Obviously more history than that though, idk.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, the Jewish migration to Israel began before WW2, after the British got the region from the ottomans. During this period there was some violence, but the British tried to keep it in check