this post was submitted on 23 Oct 2023
1441 points (94.6% liked)

196

16310 readers
2365 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

They absolutely did, their inability to coordinate and make compromises during wartime absolutely led to their failures as revolutions.

[–] masquenox 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Oh... being (respectively) stabbed in the back by Bolsheviks and being sabotaged by Stalin had absolutely nothing to do with it, eh?

No, tankie... I don't think you've read any anarchist literature at all.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, the Spanish anarchists were unsuccessful because Stalin, and not because they refused to be integrated with the popular front(which even the fucking liberals joined), including militarily until the war was already well lost, which made coordinated actions against the fascists with the popular front impossible

The lessons of the Spanish civil war dont reflect well on the anarchist movement there.

[–] masquenox 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, the Spanish anarchists were unsuccessful because Stalin

Yes. That's why, tankie. And no... they didn't lose because they decided not to take orders from your outrageously incompetent and cynical two-faced realpolitking fetish object Stalin.

Okay?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Okay so how much did you actually study the Spanish civil war because this comes off as really ignorant? Like, what books have you read on the subject that have led you to the conclusion that Stalin was controlling all of the Spanish Republicans except for the anarchists? You seem to deify Stalin much more than me, who generally considers him a very flawed leader who was a better revolutionary, but doesn't consider him some octopus with his tentacles in literally everything.

[–] masquenox 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not the one demonstrating weaponized ignorance on the subject, tankie - you are.

But hey... bring it on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But hey… bring it on.

It is a self dunk to get combative when someone asks you what books you've read on a subject you're opining about

[–] masquenox 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why would I compare books with you, tankie? You've already claimed to have read things you so obviously haven't.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, tankie… I don’t think you’ve read any anarchist literature at all.

so now we are gonna start calling names. Cool, very mature.

[–] masquenox 5 points 11 months ago

Well, then... what do you think we should call them? Do remember... it was Marxist-Leninists themselves that came up with that term.