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O-okay, weird thing to randomly bring up (also not actually true if I remember right)
No, that's actually true. As of this year, guns are the #1 killer of children and teens in the United States.
Take that cars and swimming pools!
cars and swimming pools are regulated ;)
Wait, but so are gu-----ahhh shit you got me there lol!
Of course guns aren't regulated! 🤪
You're high. I can buy a sports car without having a driver's license (there is no regulation on purchase). Same sports car has no built in restriction on speed.
Sure, if you want to drive it on your own property and do whatever the fuck you want, which will (probably) not affect anyone else.
You want to take it on the road, where your odds of affecting others drastically increases, you have to follow regulations.
And when you purchase a firearm, and want to carry it loaded on your body out of the store, you have to follow regulations as well.
Not in my state I don't. Perfectly legal for me to conceal carry a non-registered firearm without a license or any certification.
You're missing the point. You can't just wave it around, it has to be secured in it's holster, unless the situation calls for you to use it. If you're a felon, you can't carry in any capacity, nor even own one.
In my state, it's illegal to drive a car off the lot until it's insured in your name. I'm sure there's ways around it with private sales, but it's honestly pretty analogous.
Right, so you tow your new vehicle from the dealer, bypassing that requirement.
You're going to need a pile of cash to buy that sports car, because no dealer or bank is going to lend you the money without a driver's license AND insurance. The dealer won't even let you off the lot without insurance when you're signing in some places.
No shit Sherlock. Point being is, if you have the cash, you can do it.
Doesn't change the fact that there are no top speed regulators on cars. There is nowhere in the US where it's ok to drive 100+ mph on public roads. Guess what #1 cause of traffic fatalities is?
I'm only skeptical because the last time I heard this claim, when I looked into the study it turned out to only be true if you massaged the data to the point of the headline basically being a lie (it was like, combine all gun homicide, suicide, and accidental deaths but split vehicle accidents and pedestrian collisions into separate categories because vehicle deaths was still larger), but that could have been pre-covid data.
Looking into this one it seems like covid (these are 2021 numbers) might have lowered vehicle deaths and raised gun homicide/suicide enough for it to actually be the leading cause without fudging any numbers, although I'm struggling to find the exact methodology used (the CDC's website isn't exactly the most navigable on a phone)
The study also defines children as 1-19 year olds. 0-1 isn't considered (which is a big number of deaths that aren't guns) and 18-19 shouldn't be considered because they aren't legally kids. However, if you leave 18-19 out then you don't get the benefit of skewing the data with more gang violence.
I sorta get not including 0-1 since the top two spots become dominated by perinatal complications and congenital defects
Now that I'm on my computer and have messed around with their data display tool a bit, lemme see if I can break it down a bit further, all data will be from the latest year in the set, 2021, for simplicity:
Top 3 Death Cause 1-19: Firearm (4,733), Cars (4,048), Poisoning (2,079)
Top 3 Death Cause 1-17: Firearm (2,571), Cars (2,348), "All Other Diseases" (1,495)
Almost half of firearm and car accident deaths are happening to 18 and 19 year olds in this data it seems, poisoning is much further down now with only 800 or so, perhaps this category includes alcohol and drug related overdose deaths which must effect 18 and 19 year olds at a higher rate?
Top 3 Death Cause 1-19 (Minus "Black or African American"): Cars (3,167), Firearm (2,374), Poisoning (1,758)
Top 3 Death Cause 1-17 (Minus "Black or African American"): Cars (1,789), Firearm (1,357), Cancer (1,181)
As the article linked as the source of data states, black children (and young adults) have a far higher chance of dying a firearm related death (roughly 8 to 9 times higher per 100,000 than other races), I feel like a lot more focus should be put there (hopefully without any racist undertones)
A 100% reasonable perspective.
Legally, you have to register that that car and renew annually. To drive that car in the road, you'd have to have a license that you acquired paying a competency test and possibly perform a driving test. You'd also have to have insurance while driving it in public.
Not a weird thing to bring up at all. HK regulators are not likely to view this as the semi-serious faux pas that Americans, particularly his constituents, may believe it to be. Americans have a bizarre acceptance of firearms (compared to the rest of the developed world) and our consistent refusal to regulate them despite numerous atrocities is a big factor of how this incident could even have happened in the first place.
This article has nothing to do with gun violence or children though, the random facts just come a bit out of left field
Something something snowflakes and having much sex with their feelings.