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Image transcription: a section of a Wikipedia article titled "Relationship with Reality". It reads "From a scientific viewpoint, elves are not considered objectively real. [3] However," End transcription.

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[–] SpaceNoodle 26 points 11 months ago (32 children)

Wow, they really dance around that. The belief in elves is real, champ, not the elves themselves due to that belief. This isn't a Terry Pratchett novel.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (31 children)

It's written that way to be as neutral as possible.

Replace "Elf" with "God" and you'll see how important it is to "dance"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (28 children)

There is absolutely zero necessity to dance around the non existance of god. There is objectively no god.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What evidence do you have to back up that claim?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I love how nobody is responding to you, because the truth is: we can’t know, but most of us are very sure whether there is a god either way. It’s nonsense to call what an atheist believes absolutely “true,” because we can’t know. I’m an atheist, but it’s just pseudoscience to suggest that we can scientifically prove that there’s no god.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Agreed and well-put. Lack of evidence cannot give creedence to a claim. It's all well and good to believe in (the absence of, or possibility of) supernatural being(s), but to state such beliefs as objective is not follow the scientific method.

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