this post was submitted on 20 Oct 2023
106 points (96.5% liked)

Ask Lemmy

27062 readers
2961 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions

Please don't post about US Politics. If you need to do this, try [email protected]


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [email protected] or [email protected]. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Hear about how much debt everyone in the US has all the time, curious about some of your stories!

My bad debt is 10k left on a school loan from a for profit school that is now out of business.

Only other debt is house.

So how are you all doing with debt management?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Art3sian 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

ITT: few people having any clue what the difference is between good and bad debt, or that debt is basically essential to creating wealth.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I'm just enthralled at the idea of how normalized having negative money has become. Something something dystopian

[–] ericbomb 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I mean most people saying they don't have any bad debt, but saying they have good debt isn't too bad! It is interesting to know how much mortgage people are carrying.

But these days even mortgages feel bad. 400k at 7% is 28k of just interest. So houses feel way out of reach with current prices/rates.

If rates go down prices go up. So doesn't feel like there is much winning for non home owners.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

With how much they push for 25+ years mortgages you're going to pay way more than 78k for a 400k one.

[–] Art3sian 2 points 1 year ago

Housing prices, like everything, is determined by supply/demand. Interest rates are only part of the equation.

The main reason housing is high right now is because of the supply side, and that’s low at the moment because COVID destroyed the global labor market and the supply chain, so materials are sky-high, with fewer people to do the work of building.

Also, as the stock market tanks people move their money into safer places, like cash or property, hurting the supply side even more. This is what cashed up Boomers are doing (yep, we can keep blaming them).

Housing prices won’t come down until supply outweighs demand.

[–] onlym3 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure if you mean per year but mortgages are generally going to be over much longer time periods. A couple who I know are looking to buy somewhere new and are looking at getting £400k mortgage or thereabouts. With rates as they are now, and over 25 years, they'll end up paying back £900k!

[–] ericbomb 1 points 1 year ago

7% per year yes.

28k per year in interest on just a normal home is crazy.

[–] randomdeadguy -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wealth is not created, it is taken.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You literally create wealth at your job.

[–] randomdeadguy -1 points 1 year ago

actually, I am unstable and an incredible liability. If anything, I am a wealth-shrinking entity, like the common household Offshore Tax Shelter. Beware my economic hoodoo.