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I agree, gotta have patience to work in that field. Although I don't know if it's really a teacher's job to put up with that, I'm in favor of decreasing what constitutes as "fuck you and your kid" behavior. Kid throws a pizza at a teacher, fuck him, new school or alternative school the rest of the year or more, teachers aren't paid enough for that.
It's a balance right? Like throwing pizza at a teacher should absolutely get you detention or suspension or something. But also you're talking about 13 year old kids who are just gonna be little shits so they deserve some leeway. I don't think alternative school for the rest of the year is the right solution.
I went to alternative school for a couple weeks after getting in a fight at school. I honestly think it was one of the worse experiences in my life. Being screamed at constantly, no real learning, being made to do pushups and laps constantly. It was more akin to what you see in bootcamps in movies.
I've raised a 13 year old, I was a 13 year old, I mentored 13 year olds for my job. No 13 year old just does that without existing problems or behavioral issues already present. Maybe not none, but the number is ridiculously small, I just don't want to deal in absolutes. Teenagers can be mean, they can be weird, they can be vindictive, but they're not so stupid or under developed that they can't think through the logic of hitting an authority figure with food or that it's potentially a protected action due to their age.
My solution has more to do with "no person should be made to do X job". Sewer workers, absolutely shitty job, necessary, no abuse though so it's okay. Lawyer? Guaranteed immunity to abuse from clients because you can easily say "fuck it" and drop their case. Teachers are stuck, they can't even stage a walk-out or protest without being threatened by the federal government. Kids can hit you, they can belittle you, they can be as mean as they'd like with no recourse because of shifting opinions about teachers' role in society. What's worse, they know it, and they abuse it. A lot of the kids I dealt with were through social services, so I get that some of them are almost doomed before they start because of how they were raised or what necessities they were struggling with at home. But that doesn't make their bad behavior the responsibility of someone who's just trying to get a paycheck and health insurance. Bad behavior shouldn't be on teachers or schools to solve/correct/plan around, it should be the parents (and don't get me started on how parents don't have the time to rear their kids properly due to the death of the single parent income model. With that in mind, correction of those behaviors should be dropped squarely at the parent/students' feet. If alternative school scares a kid, I hope it gives them a safe enough glimpse into what society is like when you can't operate within it.