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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (36 children)
[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You mean when he in the three months afterwards helped the workers and the union to make sure they got their demands, while also not causing an actual rail shutdown that would cause massive harm to multiple areas?

[–] gibmiser 92 points 1 year ago (2 children)

See if that's true that's sad because that is the best possible outcome and I haven't heard a damn thing about it.

[–] takeda 93 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's about rail: https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid

Biden seems to do a lot of things that don't get much attention or unfairly get bad attention. For example he drastically reduced number of drone strikes (trump actually increased them after Obama, but blocked reporting).

When he lifted sanctions on NS2 he got a lot of bad flak, some even from democrats. Only months later we learned that Russia was planning attack on Ukraine and he was doing it to repair our relationship with Germany. He managed to persuade them to drop it themselves which is how we supposed to deal with allies.

[–] gibmiser 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Without making a big show of it, Joe Biden and members of his administration in the Transportation and Labor departments have been working continuously to get guaranteed paid sick days for all railroad workers."

I'm glad yo hear that not everything has to be a show, but this would be a great message to get out to the progressive democrats

[–] assassin_aragorn 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a bit torn on it. Yes it would be good to publicize, but I really like that he prioritized getting shit done over publicizing it. That's what good leaders should do.

Arguably, this is something that progressive Democrats should be aware of if they truly care about the issue, and aren't just looking for talking points.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but I really like that he prioritized getting shit done over publicizing it

Why not do both? The executive branch can walk and chew gum.

[–] assassin_aragorn 0 points 1 year ago

I guess it's naive idealism on my part.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow he ended Precision Scheduled Railroading? Didn't hear that /s

He got them some sick days, but definitely not the whole of their demands.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Plus the original demand was 15 days of sick leave, and then a tepid 7-day sick leave proposal was sent to die in congress. It's not a miracle that Biden was able to get 5 days. Breaking the strike with state power and then casting crumbs in our direction was a flex on the working class saying "nah you'll only get what we allow you to have. You don't deserve to demand shit."

I'm not holding out any hope that this is anything more than a PR campaign like kneeling cops and kente scarves.

[–] Soulg 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a complete failure of his administration that he said absolutely nothing about this and just allowed everyone to believe that he was against those workers for months.

I found this out a week or so ago and it baffled me that he just said nothing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's been a general thing that his administration has just done the positive things without hyping them up or crowing about them on the news.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He learned nothing from Trump when that's the one lesson Trump should have taught him: Brag.

[–] brlemworld 2 points 1 year ago

I mean... Trump didn't get re-elected. So you could argue that it didn't help.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Maybe I'm uninformed, but how are rail strikes, which are common in my country, massive harm that a government of half a continent feels the need to step in?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It was going to be a massive rail strike in a situation where logistics were already strained. The US is run by rail, despite how little we invest into it. It's an absolutely massive amount of land area, and the only reasonable way to transport things across it is rail. It would have crippled almost every business.

That said, if the workers are that important they should get everything they demand. The Biden administration did get them some of their demands, which is better than I expected, they should get more.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you talking about passenger rail strikes or freight? Because in the States, we have no meaningful passenger rail, but our geographical area is SO enormous that freight rail is critical. It makes up like 40% of all freight transport. So shutting the entire thing down would have been more than an inconvenience. It could have cost a lot of other people in other industries their jobs. Also, it could have caused shortages of food, gasoline, chemicals for purifying water, etc.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/looming-rail-strike-would-take-a-major-toll-on-u-s-economy

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/3644798-how-bad-would-a-rail-strike-have-been/

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

They aren't as common here and this was a rail strike that could prevent the transportation of any number of important things, enough to impact multiple states and millions of people.

[–] Ensign_Crab -1 points 1 year ago

Some people like strikebreaking for its own sake and will make up any excuse to do it.

Watch the news for whining about high car prices from people who were fine with high car prices a few weeks ago.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

As if this thread will let me forget it for 30 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yep, I'll remember this too.

People are measured by the sum of their actions.

I'm happy this is happening, and was unhappy that went down how it did.

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