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What's with the schism between lemmygrad and beehaw? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Chraccoon to c/asklemmy

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I am exploring Lemmy right now and what I see is very worrying to me, but I also don't understand wth is going on with some instances here. I don't know if it's smart to post this, but here we go.

I am partial to Marxist and anarchist ideology, but lemmygrad looks completely unhinged to me. Is it a parody? Some content is fine and some of it is insane.

On the other hand, beehaw looked super inviting from the outside and I even applied to join them. Then, I looked closer and that instance's moderation looks totalitarian and rigid in the other way. (I understand why they blocked lemmygrad though...)

I'm seeing this impact other communities in different ways and there's some kind of witch hunt happening on both sides...

I want to interact with people that can respect each-other and that can hold open-minded discussions about any topics without devolving into some tribal war.

Edit: I realize my post is not a simple question... Let me clarify some thoughs:
-I do not mean beehaw is far-right. The just seem strict and that's their right.
-I worry profiles can "inherit" the bad reputation of instances they interacted with and get pre-emptively banned.
-People are used to reddit and tend to centralize. Is the "just switch community" really an option?
-English is far from my first language and I might've judged things too quickly/harshly so take my criticism with a grain of salt.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Yes, what is anyone going to do to stop you? That’s why America has free speech at the very first right defined in the bill of rights"

"You can, you’ll just face legal consequences"

Am I taking crazy pills?

[–] lynny 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You missed the part of my comment where I pointed out you must have done something to be charged with a crime. The Government did not stop you, they are punishing you for something you did.

Your right to say and do whatever you want is immutable and cannot be taken away from you. As long as you have a mind, you have the ability to think and do what you want.

All that anyone can do to stop you is to threaten you with punishment of some kind, hoping it'll deter you from doing that thing in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you high? Do you think governments are run by witches who can hex people? Of course the government can't stop you from physically saying something!

The same way they can't stop you from building a bomb, cooking meth, stabbing someone in an alley, or anything else that's illegal.

The way laws work is to prevent people from doing things by making them illegal, what are you talking about?

[–] lynny 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am just explaining the concept of "inalienable rights".

As I said in my very first comment in this chain, no one can stop you from posting anything you want on the fediverse. You can always move to another instance or even setup your own instances.

I don't like tankies or nazis either, but they exist and they can't be banned from the fediverse like they can be banned from reddit.