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Why? Because free speech! It's super ironic to see people claim to support free speech above all else including human decency, and then go "Edit: All of you downvoting can eat shit and die, Lemmy is just like Reddit!!" Like dude, by your own standard people have the right to also be mad at you. You can't say something like "free speech doesn't care about your feelings" and then complain that people hurt your feelings.
People yelling freeze peach actually want to be free of consequences for their shitty opinions
man it's not HER fault that bowser keeps kidnapping her
I think the larger point is that hateful assholes are welcome to be hateful assholes online, but we aren't required to help them do it.
Their freedom of speech doesn't create an obligation for anyone to listen to them or grant them a platform.
Exactly. Also, saying you're not allowed to exclude them from your spaces violates your freedom. Why should you be forced to interact with people who make you uncomfortable, especially in a social setting where everyone should find groups that they enjoy being with anyway?
The "free speech" argument to not defederating doesn't even hold water on lemmy. They still have their instance and are still allowed to say whatever the fuck they want. They're still federated with whoever is willing to put up with them. They just have to it away from everyone else, by themselves, hopefully into a void.
In my opinion the fact that things are federated is sort of one of the biggest advantages of, well, federation. You can curate your federation, and defederate from whatever shit show you want, without having to have a conversation about encroaching on someone's "free speech." Unfortunately people haven't quite figured that out yet because they're so used to the monolithic corporate run social media platforms. Maybe it'll start to catch on and we can put this tired conversation to rest.