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Dear Admins of the Lemmy.world instance I am asking that you please consider defederating from the rammy.site instance as soon as possible as the admin is no where to be found and it has been taken over by right wing posters posting hateful messages. There are also other people posting large amounts of spam and creating empty communities. What was once a small hobby run general purpose instance has been turned over and made into a festering right wing hate filled breeding ground by the people from exploding-heads. The only recoarse left it seems is to defederate to prevent them from spreading hate to other instances.

PS. I already sent this message to multiple admins here, sorry about that I just felt it was urgent to make sure the message was sent before these people cause more damage.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So don’t talk about “free speech” and then wonder why you get downvoted into oblivion.

Why? Because free speech! It's super ironic to see people claim to support free speech above all else including human decency, and then go "Edit: All of you downvoting can eat shit and die, Lemmy is just like Reddit!!" Like dude, by your own standard people have the right to also be mad at you. You can't say something like "free speech doesn't care about your feelings" and then complain that people hurt your feelings.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People yelling freeze peach actually want to be free of consequences for their shitty opinions

[–] Katana314 10 points 1 year ago

man it's not HER fault that bowser keeps kidnapping her

[–] chiliedogg 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the larger point is that hateful assholes are welcome to be hateful assholes online, but we aren't required to help them do it.

Their freedom of speech doesn't create an obligation for anyone to listen to them or grant them a platform.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Exactly. Also, saying you're not allowed to exclude them from your spaces violates your freedom. Why should you be forced to interact with people who make you uncomfortable, especially in a social setting where everyone should find groups that they enjoy being with anyway?

[–] Hobo 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The "free speech" argument to not defederating doesn't even hold water on lemmy. They still have their instance and are still allowed to say whatever the fuck they want. They're still federated with whoever is willing to put up with them. They just have to it away from everyone else, by themselves, hopefully into a void.

In my opinion the fact that things are federated is sort of one of the biggest advantages of, well, federation. You can curate your federation, and defederate from whatever shit show you want, without having to have a conversation about encroaching on someone's "free speech." Unfortunately people haven't quite figured that out yet because they're so used to the monolithic corporate run social media platforms. Maybe it'll start to catch on and we can put this tired conversation to rest.