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In this case, I'm referring to the notion that we all make minor sacrifices in our daily interactions in service of a "greater good" for everyone.

"Following the rules" would be a simplified version of what I'm talking about, I suppose. But also keeping an awareness/attitude about "How will my choices affect the people around me in this moment? "Common courtesy", "situational awareness", etc...

I don't know that it's a "new" phenomenon by any means, I just seem to have an increasing (subjective) awareness of it's decline of late.

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[–] [email protected] 158 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Generally speaking, consideration for others is inversely proportional to the desperation of a given community. Think about how hard people have to work these days and still can't afford a decent place to live and food to eat. It makes perfect sense that someone who feels that the system is keeping them down, and wearing them to the bone won't be conscientious of how their actions will affect others. That mixed with Western ideals of extreme individualism, and a political climate that promotes divisiveness, it's truly a wonder that anyone has any consideration at all for their fellow countrymen.

[–] yumpoopsoup 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is it not true that struggling groups of people form the strongest communities?

[–] IonAddis 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It seems to go either way, depending on all the little local variables. Strong communities, or dog-eat-dog.

Also, you can have situations where if you "conform", you're protected by the growing-together, but if something makes you different, that community comes after you, out of fear that you being different will bring even more hardship down on everyone's head.

My social group is made up of basically goths, queers, nerdy weirdos who grew up in fundamentally conservative and religious towns and families, and are (now as adults) generally very supportive and chill with differences--but we got a hell of a lot of bullying from our natal families/cultures growing up. Based on individual personalities, there's honestly little reason we were rejected...we don't go out committing crimes, or bully, or be mean. But the differences we do have seem to scare or make our families feel ashamed of us--so, rejection. And so we lose the protection that the community offers others.

I recognize communities supporting each other is important--but the bit where perfectly good people who are kind and smart and aren't committing crimes are just thrown on the curb like trash because we don't believe in religion like others do, or because we ask questions when things don't make sense...I struggle with that bit, for obvious reasons.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Usually, but that's what the fierce individualism, and divisiveness prevents.

[–] captainlezbian 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah but it’s often in contrast to that which causes it. When everyone feels fucked by society they don’t feel a strong community with society as a whole.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes and no and also the people being "rude" or "not following the rules" see the people they are offending as not in their community, as they feel their community has been shrunken or destroyed

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