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I am exploring Lemmy right now and what I see is very worrying to me, but I also don't understand wth is going on with some instances here. I don't know if it's smart to post this, but here we go.

I am partial to Marxist and anarchist ideology, but lemmygrad looks completely unhinged to me. Is it a parody? Some content is fine and some of it is insane.

On the other hand, beehaw looked super inviting from the outside and I even applied to join them. Then, I looked closer and that instance's moderation looks totalitarian and rigid in the other way. (I understand why they blocked lemmygrad though...)

I'm seeing this impact other communities in different ways and there's some kind of witch hunt happening on both sides...

I want to interact with people that can respect each-other and that can hold open-minded discussions about any topics without devolving into some tribal war.

Edit: I realize my post is not a simple question... Let me clarify some thoughs:
-I do not mean beehaw is far-right. The just seem strict and that's their right.
-I worry profiles can "inherit" the bad reputation of instances they interacted with and get pre-emptively banned.
-People are used to reddit and tend to centralize. Is the "just switch community" really an option?
-English is far from my first language and I might've judged things too quickly/harshly so take my criticism with a grain of salt.

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[–] lp0101 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Lemmygrad is full of unhinged tankies. I just automatically assume anyone posting there is a child, either physically or mentally.

Beehaw have their own rules, and that's fine. While not my cup of tea, I won't tell them how to run their instance. I respect those rules when I post to their communities. I particularly enjoy their technology and gaming communities.

Other instances are pretty alright. The vibe on lemmy.world is pretty great, which is why it's my home instance.

Edit: inb4 this comment also gets brigaded by tankies chomping at the bit to call me a "liberal"

[–] Chraccoon 13 points 1 year ago

I definitely agree on respecting how other instances moderate themselves and I'm happy I can choose what I interact with. It's just so new and it's hard to find out what the vibes are. I hope I chose well with this one.

[–] KermitLeFrog 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This comment is basically just reaffirming my choice to make world my home instance too, although I am probably gonna explore some of Beehaw's communities especially if they have more engagement. Any you'd recommend?

[–] Dee 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly all the beehaw communities are quite nice, so it depends on your interests but you can't go wrong with any of them imo.

[–] neblem 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Outside of agreeing to the rules (modlogs are open to see), knowing who they block, and having some trust in the instance admin, joining any instance is fine and you can follow almost any instance's communities.

[–] 314xel 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also the hosting country of the instance, both from a speed perspective and a privacy perspective. At the moment, your data is in the hands of that host, with no way to actually delete it, and no way to port it to another instance.

Edit: also take into account the owner and support of the instance in regards to server power upgrades. Lemmy.world's owner for example has been great in dealing with the huge influx of users during the past week.

[–] IncogCyberspaceUser 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Edit: looks like lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works is also affected, due to open sign up policies. https://lemmy.world/post/145337
I get there is issues between beehaw and lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.
But what does this have to do with lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works? As mentioned here: https://kbin.social/m/[email protected]/t/24341/How-the-beehaw-defederation-affects-us

[–] Chraccoon 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've browsed some of beehaw's communities last night and there was a lot of terrible posts from outside being made there.
My guess is they fear defederated users from bad instances making throwaway accounts on lemmy.world to troll them from here and circumvent moderation.
I understand why they did that, but it seems very extreme and shows shortcomings in lemmy's moderation tools.
We are now tainted by the unhinged.
I don't know how I feel about this since there's no real good answer...
Maybe lemmy.world should limit sign-ups, but that could be seen as being coerced by beehaw and give them political power they don't deserve.
Something better would be to have community-level moderation tools and also tools for instances to limit interaction instead of outright nuking it. Lemmy needs more development quickly or it may suffocate.